Spider-Man's future in the Marvel Cinematic Universe

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

So, storytellingwise, Disney has the losing side.

In terms of money, I see Fox having the losing side.

Obviously you mean Sony not Fox.

Good points. This is a bit of a disaster for both sides. And both were benefiting from the previous deal which BOTH SIDES agreed to.

The beauty of that deal was no profit sharing on either side, and thats the only reason it happened and benefited everyone especially the fans.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
In the short term, definitely Disney needs Fox more. Current MCU has involved Spider Man too much...

Remember how things were tense when Batista said he would resign as Drax?

A simple change of actor for a character can have dire effects in a movie... Now imagine [B]eliminating a character from the picture! He leaving will definitely leave a whole in the MCU trajectory, despite he being abscent from Phase 4.

What's worse, Marvel currently has no way (at least not that I see of) to justify within the movies the abscence of Spiderman. They literaly can't use him at all... They can't mention him nor directly make reference as to why his departure.

So, storytellingwise, Disney has the losing side.

In terms of money, I see Fox having the losing side. [/B]

which is why i fully except them to make up sooner or later

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Obviously you mean Sony not Fox.

Good points. This is a bit of a disaster for both sides. And both were benefiting from the previous deal which BOTH SIDES agreed to.

The beauty of that deal was no profit sharing on either side, and thats the only reason it happened and benefited everyone especially the fans.

Sony sorry! All the Fox-Disney deals, switching panoramas with Sony is still fresh.

Yeah, I think Fox benefited from having his character make real profit, while Disney made his overall franchise more powerful and compelling.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
which is why i fully except them to make up sooner or later

Let's hope that's the case.

I think Disney was feeling confindent after getting Fox (This time I do mean Fox, not Sony).

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/disney-deal-spiderman-include-venom-mcu/

Sounds like the nightmare is coming to an end...

Originally posted by -Pr-
A few sites are saying that Kit Harrington (Jon Snow from GoT) is going to be revealed to be playing an MCU character at the big Disney expo-thing that's happening this weekend.

Given his age and being something of a big-ish name, I wouldn't be surprised if he's gonna get one of the bigger characters. Prepare for the internet to lose their minds if he gets made Wolverine, though.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

Let's hope that's the case.

I think Disney was feeling confindent after getting Fox (This time I do mean Fox, not Sony).

Also they are in massive debt after the Fox purchase. They paid wayyyy too much for Fox after Universal tried to outbid them.

So now they are immediately shutting down any part of Fox making a loss, and trying to desperately grab profit wherever they can find it. Hence walking into this Sony renewal acting like d***s.

Originally posted by -Pr-

Based on his height, he could be a semi accurate Logan.

Okayyy so now deadline are reporting that Disney had a 25% profit sharing offer on the table for half a year which Sony were not accepting, then in a final weird move they shot that up to 50% before calling the whole thing off.

So Disney shut down the deal.

This changes the story a lot. I think was fair for Disney to demand a 1/4 share, but I also think was fair for Sony to refuse sharing their biggest property like that.

Deadline also made it clear the profit sharing was only for the films Feige was involved in. IOW only the Holland Spider-Man films.

No ones to blame here, its just business. We got 5 films out of it, but one side was happier with the results than the other, so it had to end.

YouTube video

Sounds like it's over. I knew Disney had to bend the knee!

Venom in the MCU! 🙂

^ Fake news bro. Deadlines still reporting its over.

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/LJX9RwE

YEAAAAAHHHHHH!

Holland shouldn't get so excited. It all worked out now (it seems, but I am still not totally convinced), but I imagine Sony isn't going to be pleased with him after he showed that his loyalties are clearly not to them.

they will make up sooner or later

Cant see any articles confirming this.

Tom Holland has pretty much confirmed its finished between Marvel and Sony, but that hes still playing Spider-Man:

https://ew.com/movies/2019/08/24/tom-holland-spider-man-future-disney-sony/amp/

Phuck 🙁 c’mon guys sort it out, Spider-Man is great in the MCU

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Tom Holland has pretty much confirmed its finished between Marvel and Sony, but that hes still playing Spider-Man:

https://ew.com/movies/2019/08/24/tom-holland-spider-man-future-disney-sony/amp/

Don't see confirmation on his side. He's like, "It's gonna be great regardless the way"; not really saying he is out.

Fiege on the other hand seems more open to the idea of an MCU without Spider-man.

I have to wonder how Holland feels about all of this. I'd imagine he was pissed when he found out that they weren't agreeing on terms. Un-following Sony on social media was probably the much, much lesser of two evils.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Don't see confirmation on his side. He's like, "It's gonna be great regardless the way"; not really saying he is out.

Fiege on the other hand seems more open to the idea of an MCU without Spider-man.

Hes basically saying thanks for the 5 past years with Marvel. Sounds like he knows Its done.

And if Feige is open to it, it means hes been told its no longer happening.

Its seems like its done for now. But who knows, until Sony start going into production on the next Spidey film, theres still time for a turnaround.