Cap
Originally posted by beatboks
There isnt enough to go on for DoV Cap.
He did nothing that is noteworthy.
He attempted to delay Spacre and failed.
A few panels of literally zero sunstance.What are we supposed to weigh in with? Speculation?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Thanks for the scan. The Spectre is extremely powerful, but so is Galactus. They both vary in power. The Spectre's upper levels are depedant on the will of the Source (let me know if I'm incorrect okay), while Galactus has to consume in order to reach those upper levels. In retrospect, the battle between the Spectre, and Captain Marvel (Shazam) reminded me of the battle between Galactus and the Spinx.
I have questions.
1. Was the amount of magical power given to Shazam ever quantified?
2. Have you ever noticed that many battles become subject to the rock, paper, scissors dichotomy?
3. Would you agree that Galactus has a history of being dominant over magical creatures and/or magical energy? Let's do something. For now, let's ignore the absolute conquering that was seen during the recent Doctor Strange issue numbers # 14-17 to see if there's any validity to the notion.
I have examples that may, or may not spell the death of DOV Captain Marvel Shazam.
Galactus has a few showings that place him above mystical forces due to his nature. For example; he nearly devoured Mesphisto's realm, the defeat of the Ka Stone and his influence over it, the ability to consume the mystical Old Power, his run-in with Agamotto, his physical connection with Knull's sword All-Black Kylntarr, and how he took on the sword's properties. I strongly believe that Galactus would devour Shazam based on what was seen in Doctor Strange issues 15 and 16 alone. But I needed to see if anyone else took heed of his past encounters with magical creatures and energy?
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Abhi is right. Spectre is more powerful than Galactus, on average. I'd take SHAZAM here.
Abhi is wrong as are you. Misan-Ha Gorath was powerful enough to hold his own against the Living Tribunal and the other Abstracts, and Galactus devoured his power reducing him to nearly nothing. He'd do the same to Shazam. Perhaps you should read what Galactus did in that Doctor Strange arc. Shazam was exhausted by taking on all of that magic, while Galactus became a megaversal threat.
Originally posted by Stoic
Abhi I read your post wrong. For some reason, I read Strange altered Galactus. You are right in that Galactus became altered, but this was due to consuming Misan-Ha Gorath's power. I don't see why he couldn't do the same to Shazam who was more than likely less powerful than Misan-Ha Gorath.
Strange saying something isn't a feat for a completely featless character. Misan was less powerful than Dormammu who had centuries long feud with him.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Galactus absorbed a magical planet first. That's what altered him.Strange saying something isn't a feat for a completely featless character. Misan was less powerful than Dormammu who had centuries long feud with him.
Dormammu wasn't weak. He never was. Galactus simply has power over magical beings, constructs, and magical energy. Misan-Ha Gorath was said to have held his own against the Living Tribunal and the other Abstracts, which is stated as Galactus consumed his magical energy reducing him greatly in power. The idea that Dormammu feuded with Misan-Ha Gorath for centuries shows that they were roughly equal in power.
The alteration became evident after Misan-Ha Gorath blasts Galactus who then became aware that his search for sustenance was standing right in front of him. Misan-Ha Gorath is magical just like Shazam is. The implications of how powerful Galactus would become if he switched places with the Spectre would likely resemble what happened between him and Misan-Ha Gorath. He would likely become just as crazed as he became recently, and began hunting anything with a trace of magic in it. This would be a slaughter Abhi.
It's like I said before when I mentioned this being like a game of rock, paper, scissors.