DOV Capt. Marvel vs Galactus

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
I don't know. I don't read much of the DC stuff, and Spectre seems to be all over the place in terms of power (something to do with the host and the will of the Source, I believe).

If Spectre could absorb magic the way Galactus did in the Doctor Strange book, why didn't he do it against Captain Marvel?

Was this another case of an Abstract/Cosmic jobbing to a herald/skyfather for the sake of the story?

Well, DOV Spectre ran a freight train through the lords of order and Chaos, IRC. Although not the most powerful Spectre, still leaps and bounds above Dormammu.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Hard to see Galactus losing this fight, after that Doctor Strange arc.

Galactus (unamped and hungry) one-shotted Mishan-Ha Gorath, who was stated on panel to be powerful enough to cause problems for the Living Tribunal and other Abstracts, in his own realm. He then one or two-shotted Dormammu in his own realm (and while under his influence) before consuming him entirely. He went on to crush Satannish and consume him while under attack from several mages.

There wasn't any kind of energy Galactus couldn't absorb. The only reason Strange stopped him was by realizing Galactus was absorbing vast quantities of energy faster than he could metabolize it. He waited until damn near everyone and everything had been absorbed until he allowed all of his own energy to be absorbed, causing Galactus to implode, creating a new reality.

This is AFTER he ate a magical planet which changed him to devour magic, before which he couldn't absorb magic at all?

Galactus was further amped by flames of faltine which changed him to his core and made him a blend of magic and science which allowed him to do everything like beating Dormammu?

So no, normal Galactus doesn't stands a chance here.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're aware that Galactus was restrained by Dr Strange and Clea like a ***** AFTER he absorbed a featless character (Misan)?

This is AFTER he ate a magical planet which changed him to devour magic, before which he couldn't absorb magic at all?

Galactus was further amped by flames of faltine which changed him to his core and made him a blend of magic and science which allowed him to do everything like beating Dormammu?

So no, normal Galactus doesn't stands a chance here.

How long do you suppose Galactus was restrained? It looks to me like he was breaking free of them almost immediately, until Clea supported the restraint spell long enough for Strange to teleport him away right after that.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
A normal yet hungry Galactus effortlessly drained a featless hell-lord character who apparently was strong enough to give the Living Tribunal and other Abstracts trouble in the past. As I believe Stoic mentioned, Strange's narrative wasn't hyperbole as much as it was acknowledging Misan-Ha Gorath's history as well as his power.

Its just a story for a featless character (Strange says he has 1/5th power of Misan) even. That wouldn't put Misan near a skyfather much less abstracts.

How long do you suppose Galactus was restrained? It looks to me like he was breaking free of them almost immediately, until Clea supported the restraint spell long enough for Strange to teleport him away right after that.

Immediately? Galactus was squirming inside the spell for two pages and then got completely bound by Strange and Clea.

So Strange+Clea>>>Misan~LT, eh?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its just a story for a featless character (Strange says he has 1/5th power of Misan) even. That wouldn't put Misan near a skyfather much less abstracts.

Immediately? Galactus was squirming inside the spell for two pages and then got completely bound by Strange and Clea.

So Strange+Clea>>>Misan~LT, eh?

Those two pages read like seconds to me. Sure doesn't seem like they held him for very long before teleporting him away. Strange's narrative seems to confirm that this just pissed Galactus off, which would explain why he chose to break through the spell than try to absorb it.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
No. Strange said he DIDN'T even have a fifth of Misan-Ha Gorath's power, and he said so as he watched Galactus crush Misan-Ha Gorath, wondering just how he was going to stop Galactus himself. The context matters.

So either he was just talking shit or Clea is more powerful than Strange and Misan because they did bound him and banished him.

Those two pages read like seconds to me. Sure doesn't seem like they held him for very long before teleporting him away. Strange's narrative seems to confirm that this just pissed Galactus off, which would explain why he chose to break through the spell than try to absorb it.

And couldn't. What's better is that Umar and her motely crew of sorcerers made Galactus prisoner for a whole day.

That's your LT level Galactus, eh?

Now you're just making things up as you low ball your way up and down this thread. Strange prepped before leaving Earth. Galactus had a notable change only after absorbing Misan Ha Gorath's power blast, the very same guy that the phucking story that we all read said was able to hold g Is own against the Living Tribunal and other Abstracts. It didn't say anything about a Galactus level Living Tribunal. You're trolling at this point, because no one is going to listen as you attempt to hatchet the story that wasn't difficult to comprehend.

Galactus would consume the little DOV Captain Marvel. He was the size of a building, and exhausted by carrying far more power than he was ever supposed to. Let's concentrate on the weakest link instead on attempting to lie and reinterpret a story that even the dullest if minds would comprehend. Shaman was barely able to stand after launching a 3 hit combo on a less than optimal Spectre, who then turned around and one shot him.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
No. Strange said he DIDN'T even have a fifth of Misan-Ha Gorath's power, and he said so as he watched Galactus crush Misan-Ha Gorath, wondering just how he was going to stop Galactus himself. The context matters.

Those two pages read like seconds to me. Sure doesn't seem like they held him for very long before teleporting him away. Strange's narrative seems to confirm that this just pissed Galactus off, which would explain why he chose to break through the spell than try to absorb it.

Notice how the spell that binds Galactus is nearly broken. Clea only reinforces it. Then Stephen passes out, and he went into the fight with the stamina of an ancient dragon. Abhi will lowball the shit out of anything in order to attempt to change the meaning of a story. Perhaps Galan or Pr should read the issue because someone obviously needs a warning.

Hes lowballing in this thread as well.

Originally posted by Stoic
Now you're just making things up as you low ball your way up and down this thread. Strange prepped before leaving Earth. Galactus had a notable change only after absorbing Misan Ha Gorath's power blast, the very same guy that the phucking story that we all read said was able to hold g Is own against the Living Tribunal and other Abstracts. It didn't say anything about a Galactus level Living Tribunal. You're trolling at this point, because no one is going to listen as you attempt to hatchet the story that wasn't difficult to comprehend.

Galactus would consume the little DOV Captain Marvel. He was the size of a building, and exhausted by carrying far more power than he was ever supposed to. Let's concentrate on the weakest link instead on attempting to lie and reinterpret a story that even the dullest if minds would comprehend. Shaman was barely able to stand after launching a 3 hit combo on a less than optimal Spectre, who then turned around and one shot him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Notice how the spell that binds Galactus is nearly broken. Clea only reinforces it. Then Stephen passes out, and he went into the fight with the stamina of an ancient dragon. Abhi will lowball the shit out of anything in order to attempt to change the meaning of a story. Perhaps Galan or Pr should read the issue because someone obviously needs a warning.

You've totally lost it now. Go home.

Originally posted by carver9
Hes lowballing in this thread as well.

Apparently posting context is lowballing now.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So either he was just talking shit or Clea is more powerful than Strange and Misan because they did bound him and banished him.

And couldn't. What's better is that Umar and her motely crew of sorcerers made Galactus prisoner for a whole day.

That's your LT level Galactus, eh?

Yes, he was breaking the binding spell, which is why Clea showed up to help Strange restrain him just a bit longer, while Strange focused on teleporting him away immediately. They knew it was their only choice.

A direct confrontation and an assisted cheap shot/BFR are hardly the same thing, are they?

Umar and her "motley crew of sorcerers" turned out to an entire realm of sorcerers, and the best they could do was distract him for a few hours while he was trying to find a way out of wherever they sent him. He ultimately killed them all like he was swatting flies when he began to go mad, including Umar and Satannish.

He absorbed or obliterated every hostile magical force to confront him. Why would Captain Marvel be any different?

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Misan attacked Galactus, who no-sold the attack before stripping his lifeorce away. Didn't even bother to kill him as he was no longer any threat or of any use to him.

Yes, he was breaking the binding spell, which is why Clea showed up to help Strange restrain him just a bit longer, while Strange focused on teleporting him away immediately. They knew it was their only choice.

A direct confrontation and an assisted cheap shot/BFR are hardly the same thing, are they?

Umar and her "motley crew of sorcerers" turned out to an entire realm of sorcerers, and the best they could do was distract him for a few hours while he was trying to find a way out of wherever they sent him. He ultimately killed them all like he was swatting flies when he began to go mad, including Umar and Satannish.

He absorbed or obliterated every hostile magical force to confront him. Why would Captain Marvel be any different?

Because Abhi lacks the ability to comprehend what he reads. His disbelief in Galactus is extremely great, while at the same time has no problem in believing that Superman punch with megaversal force. It's the way he rolls.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Misan attacked Galactus, who no-sold the attack before stripping his lifeorce away. Didn't even bother to kill him as he was no longer any threat or of any use to him.

Yes, he was breaking the binding spell, which is why Clea showed up to help Strange restrain him just a bit longer, while Strange focused on teleporting him away immediately. They knew it was their only choice.

A direct confrontation and an assisted cheap shot/BFR are hardly the same thing, are they?

This sounds a lot like excuses as to why Galactus got bound.

Umar and her "motley crew of sorcerers" turned out to an entire realm of sorcerers, and the best they could do was distract him for a few hours while he was trying to find a way out of wherever they sent him. He ultimately killed them all like he was swatting flies when he began to go mad, including Umar and Satannish.

He absorbed or obliterated every hostile magical force to confront him. Why would Captain Marvel be any different?

He was amped by flames of faltine there, forgot about it? Cap beats him like he did to Spectre who is a lot more powerful than Galactus. Even this Galactus.

Originally posted by Stoic
Because Abhi lacks the ability to comprehend what he reads. His disbelief in Galactus is extremely great, while at the same time has no problem in believing that Superman punch with megaversal force. It's the way he rolls.

Originally posted by Stoic
Because Abhi lacks the ability to comprehend what he reads. His disbelief in Galactus is extremely great, while at the same time has no problem in believing that Superman punch with megaversal force. It's the way he rolls.

Yeah, he's definitely lowballing Galactus here.

I can't tell what his argument for Captain Marvel is. Momentarily brawling with a version of the Spectre who was off his A-game is still impressive, but it doesn't answer how he keeps from being consumed like so many other top-tier hell-lords, or flat out annihilated like everyone else.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This sounds a lot like excuses as to why Galactus got bound.

He was amped by flames of faltine there, forgot about it? Cap beats him like he did to Spectre who is a lot more powerful than Galactus. Even this Galactus.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
What's to stop him from absorbing the magic that powers Captain Marvel? You haven't answered that yet.

Nothing stops it. Captain Marvel wasn't even fully in control of that power. Galactus would laugh at him. He was literally exhausted from carrying it.

Wow, fantastic debate.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
What's to stop him from absorbing the magic that powers Captain Marvel? You haven't answered that yet.