DOV Capt. Marvel vs Galactus

Originally posted by Stoic
Dormammu wasn't weak. He never was. Galactus simply has power over magical beings, constructs, and magical energy. Misan-Ha Gorath was said to have held his own against the Living Tribunal and the other Abstracts, which is stated as Galactus consumed his magical energy reducing him greatly in power. The idea that Dormammu feuded with Misan-Ha Gorath for centuries shows that they were roughly equal in power.

The alteration became evident after Misan-Ha Gorath blasts Galactus who then became aware that his search for sustenance was standing right in front of him. Misan-Ha Gorath is magical just like Shazam is. The implications of how powerful Galactus would become if he switched places with the Spectre would likely resemble what happened between him and Misan-Ha Gorath. He would likely become just as crazed as he became recently, and began hunting anything with a trace of magic in it. This would be a slaughter Abhi.

It's like I said before when I mentioned this being like a game of rock, paper, scissors.

Clearly a story about Misan is more important than actual feats. Dr Strange>Galactus>Living Tribunal.

Right.

On topic, Cap beats the crap out of him.

Abhi, I just re-read the issue. Galactus was subdued for seconds by Stephen before he began to break free. Stephen was helped by other magical characters to reinforce the spell which tired him to the point that he passed out for an entire day. Stephen could not hold him. WTF man? You're bullsh1tting now? WTF?

We take what is written on panel as proof before taking another posters word for it as you're attempting to do. There was no hyperbole evident in Stephen's words, but instead it was considered as something that happened in history at some point in time.

Your inability to admit this is ridiculous.

Galactus would easily defeat this suped up version of Shazam, based on what was recently shown on panel in Doctor Strange #14-17. And he has feats in the past against powerful magical creatures like Agamotto which shows that this isn't something new for him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Abhi, I just re-read the issue. Galactus was subdued for seconds by Stephen before he began to break free. Stephen was helped by other magical characters to reinforce the spell which tired him to the point that he passed out for an entire day. Stephen could not hold him. WTF man? You're bullsh1tting now? WTF?

WTF?

Strange was exhausted because he was restraining AND teleporting Galactus both.

With Clea he successfully restrained Galactus and teleported him.

We take what is written on panel as proof before taking another posters word for it as you're attempting to do. There was no hyperbole evident in Stephen's words, but instead it was considered as something that happened in history at some point in time.

Your inability to admit this is ridiculous.

Or maybe I know Misan was just cannon fodder to hype Galactus up.

If not, kindly show those feats for either Galactus or Misan which shows they can stalemate LT.

Galactus would easily defeat this suped up version of Shazam, based on what was recently shown on panel in Doctor Strange #14-17. And he has feats in the past against powerful magical creatures like Agamotto which shows that this isn't something new for him.

An altered Galactus, not normal Galactus.

Galactus could not do anything to Agamotto. Dire Wraiths have almost killed Galactus.

Cap beats the shit out of Galactus.

1. Strange had the stamina of an ancient dragon aiding him. That band around his arm wasn't for show. Galactus has a history of being able to not just resist magic, but has also consumed magic. Are you trying to deny this? If so, you did not understand what you read in Doctor Strange #14-17. I said that he was exhausted from restraining Galactus, but it took more than Clea to hold him. It wasn't just those two. Are you trying to paint a different picture than that which was written? Go further into the story, to when Clea visits Stephen after he wakes up. Clea isn't restraining Galactus, there are others there, and they're barely able to hold him.

2. No maybe about anything. Galactus defeated a magical being that held his own against the Living Tribunal and the other Abstracts which is what was stated on panel, which is canon. This shows that Galactus has power over magical beings. It also shows that Dormammu wasn't weak. This feat talk only goes so far. Or, should we get a mod ruling of this particular instance?

3. When Galactus entered the Realm of Magic he was normal. The very first time that the alteration occurred was when Misan-Ha Gorath blasts him. You should re-read that part, because it wasn't the planet that began the transformation. Besides, Captain Marvel was exhausted from just holding the amount of power that was transferred to him. And now you're low balling? Galactus fought Agamotto in his own land, where he had power. It was an example to show that he was not weak, or vulnerable to magic. His run-in with Mephisto is another example.

Originally posted by Stoic
1. Strange had the stamina of an ancient dragon aiding him. That band around his arm wasn't for show. Galactus has a history of being able to not just resist magic, but has also consumed magic. Are you trying to deny this? If so, you did not understand what you read in Doctor Strange #14-17. I said that he was exhausted from restraining Galactus, but it took more than Clea to hold him. It wasn't just those two. Are you trying to paint a different picture than that which was written? Go further into the story, to when Clea visits Stephen after he wakes up. Clea isn't restraining Galactus, there are others there, and they're barely able to hold him.

3. When Galactus entered the Realm of Magic he was normal. The very first time that the alteration occurred was when Misan-Ha Gorath blasts him. You should re-read that part, because it wasn't the planet that began the transformation. Besides, Captain Marvel was exhausted from just holding the amount of power that was transferred to him. And now you're low balling? Galactus fought Agamotto in his own land, where he had power. It was an example to show that he was not weak, or vulnerable to magic. His run-in with Mephisto is another example.

It was when Galactus consumed a magical planet. Don't lie now.

Agamotto/Mephisto are a gnat compared to Spectre.

I'm at work. Will reply later. You're partially right, while at the same time glazing over certain facts. Shazam loses though, no matter how deep you're trying to pull this out to.

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Galactus absorbs his magic. This is unfair for Billy tbh.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus absorbs his magic. This is unfair for Billy tbh.

Exactly. Billy was just an inflated ball of magical energy with no way of defending against an energy consumer on Galactus' level. He began shrinking seconds after obtaining his power up. No contest TBH.

Originally posted by Stoic
Exactly. Billy was just an inflated ball of magical energy with no way of defending against an energy consumer on Galactus' level. He began shrinking seconds after obtaining his power up. No contest TBH.

Otherwise Cap would beat the shit out of him.

Shaman, couldn't even maintain form. Galactus doesn't have a limit to what he can or can't consume. He devours entire planets that have had magical beings on it. It's what started the entire thing. You'd best try harder at concealing the truth.

Galactus beats him worse than hid beat the Sphinx.

Originally posted by Stoic
Exactly. Billy was just an inflated ball of magical energy with no way of defending against an energy consumer on Galactus' level. He began shrinking seconds after obtaining his power up. No contest TBH.

Originally posted by Stoic
Shaman, couldn't even maintain form. Galactus doesn't have a limit to what he can or can't consume. He devours entire planets that have had magical beings on it. It's what started the entire thing. You'd best try harder at concealing the truth.

Galactus beats him worse than hid beat the Sphinx.

Sphinx is nothing at this level.

Hard to see Galactus losing this fight, after that Doctor Strange arc.

Galactus (unamped and hungry) one-shotted Mishan-Ha Gorath, who was stated on panel to be powerful enough to cause problems for the Living Tribunal and other Abstracts, in his own realm. He then one or two-shotted Dormammu in his own realm (and while under his influence) before consuming him entirely. He went on to crush Satannish and consume him while under attack from several mages.

There wasn't any kind of energy Galactus couldn't absorb. The only reason Strange stopped him was by realizing Galactus was absorbing vast quantities of energy faster than he could metabolize it. He waited until damn near everyone and everything had been absorbed until he allowed all of his own energy to be absorbed, causing Galactus to implode, creating a new reality.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Hard to see Galactus losing this fight, after that Doctor Strange arc.

Galactus (unamped and hungry) one-shotted Mishan-Ha Gorath, who was stated on panel to be powerful enough to cause problems for the Living Tribunal and other Abstracts, in his own realm. He then one or two-shotted Dormammu in his own realm (and while under his influence) before consuming him entirely. He went on to crush Satannish and consume him while under attack from several mages.

There wasn't any kind of energy Galactus couldn't absorb. The only reason Strange stopped him was by realizing Galactus was absorbing vast quantities of energy faster than he could metabolize it. He waited until damn near everyone and everything had been absorbed until he allowed all of his own energy to be absorbed, causing Galactus to implode, creating a new reality.

Yeah but Anhi won't accept it, because... well just because, but if they said that someone from the Super Family did something off panel, it's phucking canon. Abhi tsk tsk.

Billy beat Spectre so badly, he had to retreat to mend his heavy injuries. He would have won, had he not been cut off from the amp because of Sorceress going insane from the power (Which I presume is not something that can happen here.)

Originally posted by Stoic
Yeah but Anhi won't accept it, because... well just because, but if they said that someone from the Super Family did something off panel, it's phucking canon. Abhi tsk tsk.

Aside from what we've already mentioned, Galactus f*cked up Nightmare in his own realm without ever having to acknowledge his existence, and it looked as if Mephisto was about to suffer the same fate.

Originally posted by Stoic
Exactly. Billy was just an inflated ball of magical energy with no way of defending against an energy consumer on Galactus' level. He began shrinking seconds after obtaining his power up. No contest TBH.

Because he was cut off, when Sorceress went evil mad.

Since his power source is external, it's debatable how efficiently Big G can absorb his energy, especially while getting pounded on.

Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Hard to see Galactus losing this fight, after that Doctor Strange arc.

Galactus (unamped and hungry) one-shotted Mishan-Ha Gorath, who was stated on panel to be powerful enough to cause problems for the Living Tribunal and other Abstracts, in his own realm. He then one or two-shotted Dormammu in his own realm (and while under his influence) before consuming him entirely. He went on to crush Satannish and consume him while under attack from several mages.

There wasn't any kind of energy Galactus couldn't absorb. The only reason Strange stopped him was by realizing Galactus was absorbing vast quantities of energy faster than he could metabolize it. He waited until damn near everyone and everything had been absorbed until he allowed all of his own energy to be absorbed, causing Galactus to implode, creating a new reality.

I don't see how that is important, seeing as Spectre could do the same thing. You really think Dormammu can really hold his own against a non jobbing Spectre?

Originally posted by Senor Cage
I don't see how that is important, seeing as Spectre could do the same thing. You really think Dormammu can really hold his own against a non jobbing Spectre?

If Spectre could absorb magic the way Galactus did in the Doctor Strange book, why didn't he do it against Captain Marvel?

Was this another case of an Abstract/Cosmic jobbing to a herald/skyfather for the sake of the story?