Captain Marvel (DC) vs. Orion (arm wrestling)

Originally posted by Delta1938
Yes, I know. I've read the story. And a later comic, I do believe by the same writers(could be wrong), had Superman face them again but now that he knew how Psi-Phon worked he resisted the telepathy. You argued how Cap fared against Dreadnaught duplicating Superman, my point was because a later fight Superman was clearly superior to Dreadnaught duplicating his powers, I don't think Dreadnaught is actually equal to who he duplicates(skill and experience aside). And Superman was fairly casual in the beat down. It was ONLY Superman that Dreadnaught duplicated in the later comic, and Superman had no force field nor was in his Clark identity.

I know what issue you're referring to (Adventures of Superman #469), but there was no context that indicated Dreadnaught duplicated Superman's powers again.

I didn't see any mention of it.

Originally posted by The_Dog_of_War
I know what issue you're referring to (Adventures of Superman #469), but there was no context that indicated Dreadnaught duplicated Superman's powers again.

I didn't see any mention of it.

It was pretty obvious he was nowhere near Superman's level of power in the JLA fight. Literally everyone had the upper hand on him, from Martian Manjobber, to Aquaman, to fraggin Elongated Man.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
concession accepted.
Next time you engage with me, bring some proof. I don't do back n forth, don't care about you enough.

good talk though, i'll discuss it with abhi if he provides what I ask for

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
concession accepted.
Next time you engage with me, bring some proof. I don't do back n forth, don't care about you enough.

good talk though, i'll discuss it with abhi if he provides what I ask for

You really are this unaware.

Originally posted by The_Dog_of_War
I know what issue you're referring to (Adventures of Superman #469), but there was no context that indicated Dreadnaught duplicated Superman's powers again.

I didn't see any mention of it.

Duplicating powers was his thing. They conned people into thinking Psi-Phon transferred powers, but it was really Psi-Phon telepathically disabled and Dreadnaught duplicated. What else do you think he was doing?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
concession accepted.
Next time you engage with me, bring some proof. I don't do back n forth, don't care about you enough.

good talk though, i'll discuss it with abhi if he provides what I ask for

Originally posted by abhilegend
Discuss what?

Proof that Superman had an advantage without "esoteric control."

Which by his definition seems to mean any sort of outside influence, e.g. as if they'd ever fight in character, without being tricked or forced into it.

This isn't Marvel, Superman and Captain Marvel don't have throwdowns as part of a pissing contest.

Cap straight up said Superman only fought more savagely, there was no indication that Superman was somehow stronger.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Duplicating powers was his thing. They conned people into thinking Psi-Phon transferred powers, but it was really Psi-Phon telepathically disabled and Dreadnaught duplicated. What else do you think he was doing?

When Superman was talking to Dreadnaught's wife Dreadnaught crash landed near them and Superman said "I'm not an expert on Dreadnaught's physiology, but he looks okay."

So, that tells me he was trying to rely on his own physical power to beat Superman since he thought Psi-Phon would have been able to disable Superman's powers.

Psi-Phon blocks the powers of heroes [Superman, Aquaman, etc] and then encodes Dreadnaught to fake having them [thus the deception]

The actual level Dreadnaught's powers are has nothing to do with the level of power the heroes themselves possess, since they're not stolen -- just mimicked.