Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
^ 🙄I'm so sorry that leftist brainwashing has made you so retarded that you believe playing or standing up for the anthem is "being political" lol. It's called patriotism.
Taking a knee means you're a virtue-signalling attention whore who hates America.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
You're talking to a guy who hates patriotism though. Nothing about what you're saying is going to be persuasive to him.
Oh yeah... that's right. I forgot that patriotism is taboo to the modern-day left.
If u r patriotic then that obviously means you're a racist, after all. 😂
Originally posted by NemeBro
Are you really so much of a partisan retard that you're taking Star's side here? 😂
But really I agree because the national anthem and football used to not be a polarizing thing. The national anthem prior to the takeaknee thing was a unifying symbol for the country, and football (despite me not being a fan) was one of the places of American life not infested with back and forth political partisanship. The Kaepernick introduced political partisanship into the equation.
Though to be fair, Trump is also partly responsible for exacerbating it. If you looked at polling, before he weighed in on the issue, an overwhelming majority of Americans simultaneously held the position that Kaepernick's kneeling was not something they approved of but that they believed he should be allowed to kneel. After Trump weighed in on the issue, if you look at polling, quite a few left-wingers reflexively kneejerked and started believing Kaepernick kneeling for the anthem was a good thing whereas they merely believed he should be allowed to do it while personally disagreeing with the action. Likewise after Trump's comment quite a few right-wingers reflexively rallied behind Trump's position and took the stance that Kaepernick shouldn't be allowed to kneel whereas previously they disagreed with him kneeling on a moral level but still believed he should be allowed to kneel.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Taking a knee is no less political than playing the national anthem. If you think the former is too political, than you should hold the same view of the latter.
Only if you believe patriotism is restricted to the right.
But why would it be? Should not love of country be bipartisan?
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Just commenting on the obvious fact that he's not gonna get anywhere here because the person he's talking to has told me before that he thinks patriotism is retarded.But really I agree because the national anthem and football used to not be a polarizing thing. The national anthem prior to the takeaknee thing was a unifying symbol for the country, and football (despite me not being a fan) was one of the places of American life not infested with back and forth political partisanship. The Kaepernick introduced political partisanship into the equation.
Though to be fair, Trump is also partly responsible for exacerbating it. If you looked at polling, before he weighed in on the issue, an overwhelming majority of Americans simultaneously held the position that Kaepernick's kneeling was not something they approved of but that they believed he should be allowed to kneel. After Trump weighed in on the issue, if you look at polling, quite a few left-wingers reflexively kneejerked and started believing Kaepernick kneeling for the anthem was a good thing whereas they merely believed he should be allowed to do it while personally disagreeing with the action. Likewise after Trump's comment quite a few right-wingers reflexively rallied behind Trump's position and took the stance that Kaepernick shouldn't be allowed to kneel whereas previously they disagreed with him kneeling on a moral level but still believed he should be allowed to kneel.
I know of no right-wingers that say he or anyone else shouldn't have a right to kneel. However, that is a right which means the government only should not be able to interfere with. If the employer of any kneeler threatens the person with being fired (or does actually go thru with firing him) for kneeling then I'm fine with that. That is the employer's right. There is an appropriate time and place for protesting (it's really not protesting though; it's virtue-signalling, attention-seeking behavior, nothing more) and doing it on someone else's time is not the time to do it.
There's nothing wrong with quietly kneeling during the national anthem; it's a personal choice. Trump and his retard Trumper army who had/have a problem with it are simply morons** being played but Trump when he so commands it.
There's also nothing wrong with playing or participating in with the national anthem.
**see the older thread here over it, we had a few morons who had a problem with people quietly kneeling
Yeah, because it's sooooo "moronic" to be upset at people who shit all over the flag and the anthem merely because they wanna virtue-signal and get attention. 🙄
Not a surprising reply coming from such an anti-USA p-o-s as yourself who is always bashing our founders though (who're all a hell of a lot smarter and wiser than you). It's par for the course for you... moron.
You probably think people who get upset over American flag-burning are "morons" as well I bet.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnaesilly faceless troll.
Yeah, because it's sooooo "moronic" to be upset at people who shit all over the flag and the anthem merely because they wanna virtue-signal and get attention. 🙄Not a surprising reply coming from such an anti-USA p-o-s as yourself who is always bashing our founders though (who're all a hell of a lot smarter and wiser than you). It's par for the course for you... moron.
You probably think people who get upset over American flag-burning are "morons" as well I bet.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, because it's sooooo "moronic" to be upset at people who shit all over the flag and the anthem.
^Even though this is just a character Starfly is playing, that is actually correct as well. What do I care if someone pisses or shits** on a flag they purchased themselves? It's their property; so shit on it all you like, just do so legally.
**Though it should be noted that Kaepernick didn't "shit all over the flag and the anthem", he merely kneeled quietly, not bothering anyone else. If Trump hadn't made Trumper morons froth at the mouth over it, it would have died out rather quickly.
Originally posted by Robtard👆 he is a silly faceless troll account, too ott to affect anyone except make them laugh.
^Even though this is just a character Starfly is playing, that is actually correct as well. What do I care if someone pisses or shits** on a flag they purchased themselves? It's their property; so shit on it all you like, just do so legally.**Though it should be noted that Kaepernick didn't "shit all over the flag and the anthem", he merely kneeled quietly, not bothering anyone else. If Trump hadn't made Trumper morons froth at the mouth over it, it would have died out rather quickly.