See, the problem isn't getting political. Captain America punching out Adolf Hitler in the funny pages was political.
The trouble is, everything these days is nothing but. Mud slinging and virtue signaling is out of hand, all across the media spectrum. Marketers don't seem to know how to push something, unless they're pushing somebodies buttons.
That's why I prefer manga to a lot of western offerings, because I can sit back and enjoy the story of a kid made of rubber traveling the world to become the pirate king, without seeing some reminder of the ever persistent "You should he mad" be.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Taking a knee is no less political than playing the national anthem. If you think the former is too political, than you should hold the same view of the latter.
The national anthem wasn't meant to piss people off and taking a knee eventually just became a way to piss people off. Faulty comparison, try again.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
First of all, CA is a fictional character. Secondly, if he were real, he would not be on your side robbie I promise you because it is your side that is acting like actual nazis. Finally, it is you idiots on the left that seem to be obsessed with that genocidal maniac Hitler, not us conservatives.
Just ignore Rob he's trolling when he brings up Captain America. He knows Cap would slap the shit out of any Antifa dweeb.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Just commenting on the obvious fact that he's not gonna get anywhere here because the person he's talking to has told me before that he thinks patriotism is retarded.But really I agree because the national anthem and football used to not be a polarizing thing. The national anthem prior to the takeaknee thing was a unifying symbol for the country, and football (despite me not being a fan) was one of the places of American life not infested with back and forth political partisanship. The Kaepernick introduced political partisanship into the equation.
Though to be fair, Trump is also partly responsible for exacerbating it. If you looked at polling, before he weighed in on the issue, an overwhelming majority of Americans simultaneously held the position that Kaepernick's kneeling was not something they approved of but that they believed he should be allowed to kneel. After Trump weighed in on the issue, if you look at polling, quite a few left-wingers reflexively kneejerked and started believing Kaepernick kneeling for the anthem was a good thing whereas they merely believed he should be allowed to do it while personally disagreeing with the action. Likewise after Trump's comment quite a few right-wingers reflexively rallied behind Trump's position and took the stance that Kaepernick shouldn't be allowed to kneel whereas previously they disagreed with him kneeling on a moral level but still believed he should be allowed to kneel.
See that is the thing, notice how the number of players taking a knee rose DRAMATICALLY after Trump got involved? This shows they gave two shits about black on black crime or whatever. They just wanted to piss Trump off. Should Trump have weighed in? Nah, but he exposed the true colors of a lot of people by doing so. This was never really about police brutality, etc. It was some edgelord type shit.
And if Colin Kaepernick cared so much about injustice and abuse he wouldn't have signed with Nike. Unless he just cares *only* about black lives. Kids in sweatshops? Meh, he gots ta get paid. He was poor before Nike came to him.
And of course in the off season all these kneeling players used the publicity they gained to help promote the issue they were kneeling over.
Lol, just kidding.
Originally posted by Eon Blue
Starfly gets so worked up. How cute.Ongoing conversation aside, I’ve always felt that a limited dose of patriotism is justifiable, but at a certain point it becomes toxic and poisonous. It’s the equivalent to blind fervor for a football team. Funny how those two parallels intersect quite often.
My issue is they did nothing with it. They knelt, got all this press over it...cried about police brutality...and what? What did they do with it? Throw some cash at some charities? That's easy to do when you're wealthy.
@Eon: your idiotic insistance that I'm Fly, or Star, or even both somehow (LOL) aside, yeah, I'm a very patriotic person who served his country honorably in the military. When anti-USA pieces of shit disrespect our flag and anthem then yes, it upsets me.
I don't expect you to understand considering you have literally zero pride in your own country.
Originally posted by NemeBro
What do you think they should have done with it?
I don't know, maybe instead of just throwing cash at something they could participate in programs meant to help the police connect with those in the neighborhoods they patrol. I know these already exist, why not lend their celebrity to it?
How many of them have sat down and hat an actual conversation with a police officer? Especially one who works a tough neighborhood? Maybe start there.
Or just whine on tv. Either or.
Wait, who am I kidding? I don't need to give you any solution, I just gotta shout "do something". That's good enough 👆
Originally posted by Surtur
My issue is they did nothing with it. They knelt, got all this press over it...cried about police brutality...and what? What did they do with it? Throw some cash at some charities? That's easy to do when you're wealthy.
Not to mention the corrupt nature of many charity organization's, the same as non profit's.
They're excellent ways to scam money.