Spiderman: No Way Home (2021)

Think you're reading too much into a comic film...

Holland Parker's also a genius and incredibly immature and gullible who always wants to see the best in people. Why Tony cared for him so much.

Also, keep in mind that

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Tom-Peter was taking no chances with Octavius and kept him in check with his nanotech till he was able to build his own, brand-new neural inhibitor chip.

See? Playing it smart and safe wasn't beyond Holland's capabilities at all.

Originally posted by Robtard
Think you're reading too much into a comic film...

This is KMC. This is what we do.

Originally posted by Robtard
Holland Parker's also a genius and incredibly immature and gullible who always wants to see the best in people. Why Tony cared for him so much.

Which is why

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Octavius was being restrained all the damn time?

There's a difference between trusting a [evil] computer and a person though.

IMO, you're making the issue much larger than it is.

The guy was a ticking bomb.

Almost literally,

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considering his pumpkin bomb fetish

I honestly think y'all are being too hard on Peter.

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He's that optimistic, youthful superhero that's just trying to do the right thing (and spurred on by May don't forget), and he's never fought anyone like Goblin before. That, and Goglin at the start appears as arguably the least threatening of the group once Peter actually meets him and talks to him. He feels bad for him and is taken in by his act. Norman isn't stupid either. With Strange off the board, Peter was easier to manipulate.

I mean, they weren't subtle about this being the third of act of Peter's MCU origin story. He leans the hard lesson and in many ways, May is his Uncle Ben. I'm not gonna pretend it was perfect, but I don't think it was that offensive either.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I honestly think y'all are being too hard on Peter.

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He's that optimistic, youthful superhero that's just trying to do the right thing (and spurred on by May don't forget), and he's never fought anyone like Goblin before. That, and Goglin at the start appears as arguably the least threatening of the group once Peter actually meets him and talks to him. He feels bad for him and is taken in by his act. Norman isn't stupid either. With Strange off the board, Peter was easier to manipulate.

I mean, they weren't subtle about this being the third of act of Peter's MCU origin story. He leans the hard lesson and in many ways, May is his Uncle Ben. I'm not gonna pretend it was perfect, but I don't think it was that offensive either.

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Tom-Peter and Otto saw him on the bridge, bombing the shit out of it and flying towards them.

Norman has confessed right to their faces about his dual personality disorder, too. Didn't keep it a secret - as that was when Norman was in control, being honest with May and Peter.

Otto does confirm he is a threat once or twice, too.

With all that information (and hard proof back on the bridge), Peter really should've taken precautions.

And he is not that inexperienced, either - Mysterio pretended to be his friend and look where that got him.

Ok, I saw it.

Peter Parker is

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a murderer.

And Doctor Strange is a goddamned idiot. It isn't Peter's fault, he's the retard who tried to manipulate time and space to indulge a teenage overreaction.

And that's the tip of the iceberg.

**** this movie!

Originally posted by Robtard

IMO, you're making the issue much larger than it is.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I honestly think y'all are being too hard on Peter.

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He's that optimistic, youthful superhero that's just trying to do the right thing (and spurred on by May don't forget), and he's never fought anyone like Goblin before. That, and Goglin at the start appears as arguably the least threatening of the group once Peter actually meets him and talks to him. He feels bad for him and is taken in by his act. Norman isn't stupid either. With Strange off the board, Peter was easier to manipulate.

I mean, they weren't subtle about this being the third of act of Peter's MCU origin story. He leans the hard lesson and in many ways, May is his Uncle Ben. I'm not gonna pretend it was perfect, but I don't think it was that offensive either.

Agreed these aren't very fair criticisms.

I can think of plot holes in the film, but too much focus on Pete's "stupidity" here. When it was more just youthful naivety. Which is very different to IQ level. And actually pretty spot on for the character.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Agreed these aren't very fair criticisms.

I can think of plot holes in the film, but too much focus on Pete's "stupidity" here. When it was more just youthful naivety. Which is very different to IQ level. And actually pretty spot on for the character.

Peter doesn't stab someone to death. Like Superman doesn't snap Zod's neck, or Batman doesn't let Ra's fall to his death.

Unless I was too drunk and only imagined that happened.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Agreed these aren't very fair criticisms.

I can think of plot holes in the film, but too much focus on Pete's "stupidity" here. When it was more just youthful naivety. Which is very different to IQ level. And actually pretty spot on for the character.

College-aged people are not children. They've been considered adults doing adult things for 99.9% of human history. Boys Peter's age raised families and fought in wars. The idea that anyone would

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bring a bunch of crazy supervillains to his mom's house is ridiculous. Even if we accept that he needed Otto and Norman's help because of their scientific knowledge, why the heck were Electro and Sandman there? They don't know jack about science.

Originally posted by cdtm
Peter doesn't stab someone to death. Like Superman doesn't snap Zod's neck, or Batman doesn't let Ra's fall to his death.

Unless I was too drunk and only imagined that happened.

Plenty of posters, plenty of different opinions.

See, Todd, quite a few things I considered retarded in NWH, but not that scene. Can't agree with you here.

Pretty sure you would stab Praven the Hunter to death if he harmed Callie, being a well-known pet hater and Sin's confidant he is vin

Originally posted by Psychotron
College-aged people are not children. They've been considered adults doing adult things for 99.9% of human history. Boys Peter's age raised families and fought in wars. The idea that anyone would

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bring a bunch of crazy supervillains to his mom's house is ridiculous. Even if we accept that he needed Otto and Norman's help because of their scientific knowledge, why the heck were Electro and Sandman there? They don't know jack about science.

Don't forget about

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the Lizard. Even though he chose to stay in the van.

Not only he was old enough to know what he was doing, he's also quite experienced --- Civil War, Infinity War, Endgame, not to mention his own 2 solo films, which weren't exactly a walk in the park, either.

I'm still hung up on

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Dr.Strange having to be the jobber in order for Spider-Man to not job in this movie. Also the villains being cured for nothing if they're being sent back to when they were originally pulled

Dr. Strange was the worst of all.

He blamed Peter for messing things up, but he's the idiot sorcerer who actually messed with time and space for one teenagers angst.

If Peter has the excuse of being young, Stephen should know better. He was right to lose the Sorcerer Supreme title.

Movie was fine. It didn’t live up anywhere near to the hype. It also did Dr Strange completely dirty.

Originally posted by cdtm
Dr. Strange was the worst of all.

He blamed Peter for messing things up, but he's the idiot sorcerer who actually messed with time and space for one teenagers angst.

If Peter has the excuse of being young, Stephen should know better. He was right to lose the Sorcerer Supreme title.

Yep. This has always been Strange's problem even in the comics... His hubris.

I like him as a character but he is THE poster boy for duality of the good guy/bad guy because he ALWAYS thinks he's the smartest man in the room(he usually is but, you know what I mean).

The only character who's bawlz are bigger than Stephen and carries his nutz in a wheel barrel is Dr DOOM, my favorite villian/anti-hero.

...I'm SO ready for my boy to be introduced into the MCU proper.

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Originally posted by CoolBlackKnight
Yep. This has always been Strange's problem even in the comics... His hubris.

I like him as a character but he is THE poster boy for duality of the good guy/bad guy because he ALWAYS thinks he's the smartest man in the room(he usually is but, you know what I mean).

The only character who's bawlz are bigger than Stephen and carries his nutz in a wheel barrel is Dr DOOM, my favorite villian/anti-hero.

...I'm SO ready for my boy to be introduced into the MCU proper.

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Paul Allen's card is the best. Good coloring gives the card some pop, the space is used well, and the type face is simple but elegant. Just very well done. Poor HalberstramBateman can't compete.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Don't forget about

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the Lizard. Even though he chose to stay in the van.

Not only he was old enough to know what he was doing, he's also quite experienced --- Civil War, Infinity War, Endgame, not to mention his own 2 solo films, which weren't exactly a walk in the park, either.

Yeah, he's had more movies than Tobey and Garfield combined. You can't play the naive kid card anymore. Even if this was his first movie I can't imagine

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Ditko-era Peter bringing Doc Ock, GG, Lizard, Sandman and Electro to Aunt May's house and letting them walk around freely.