Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The position of Herc's arms when Mags did that feat to break the bear hug. I've seen certain MA techniques that break such holds so fast and powerful that they can dislocate shoulders.
So its your opinion only? Stop trolling.
Warlock was NOT near death. He was STARVING since a Technarch needs to feed in order to heal itself. Notice that he was going into a Feeding Frenzy state. If Mags hadn't stopped him, Warlock would have EATEN that Avengers team. Technarchs are SCARY AS F!
Warlock has never torn a sun. And you're talking about Namor, Cap, Wasp and Black Knight.
Ooh, scary team. Stop trolling.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So its your opinion only? Stop trolling.Warlock has never torn a sun. And you're talking about Namor, Cap, Wasp and Black Knight.
Ooh, scary team. Stop trolling.
I did NOT state an opinion. I stated a FACT. Warlock was NOT dying at all.
Also, the reason why Magus was AFRAID of Warlock, is because he was AFRAID that Warlock would realize his TRUE POTENTIAL as the son of a Technarch King. Warlock DID become a Technarch King due to BEATING Magus. He even turned Magus into a child
I was talking about those Avengers since they were ON that Avengers team that Warlock was about to eat. Once again, your reading comprehension is proven to need A LOT of improvement.
New Mutants Vol.1 #40. Mags confirms that Warlock was Critically Damaged by Herc's Metal Adamantine Mace (a magical weapon that amps the blunt force damage of Herc's attacks when he uses it). Panel 2 has Mags CONFIRMING that Warlock was barely alive. Panel 3 has Mags feeding Warlock EM energies on a small level since too high a level would end up KILLING Warlock in his weakened state.
Page 19. Panel 3 has Magneto CLEARLY STATES that Warlock is STARVED FOR ENERGY and that Warlock would end up FEEDING on those Avengers before Warlock even realized what he was doing. Thus, Warlock was in a FEEDING FRENZIED state. If Warlock was TRULY DYING, he would NOT have been able to move, let alone attack those Avengers.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Theres a big difference between MAGIC-BASED and HIGH INTENSITY MAGNETIC FLUX BASED forcefield, prove that they are using the SAME TYPE of Shield that Mags is using and that said Shield is the SAME LEVEL of INTEGRITY (FIELD STRENGTH)
are the Force Fields that GLs use the SAME type of Force Fields that Psionic Based TK users (Jean Grey, Psylocke, etc.) use?
Remember, your claim regarding the force fields used by Eclipso and/or Hecate in comparison w/ those used by Mags HINGES on this question
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I did NOT state an opinion. I stated a FACT. Warlock was NOT dying at all.Also, the reason why Magus was AFRAID of Warlock, is because he was AFRAID that Warlock would realize his TRUE POTENTIAL as the son of a Technarch King. Warlock DID become a Technarch King due to BEATING Magus. He even turned Magus into a child
I was talking about those Avengers since they were ON that Avengers team that Warlock was about to eat. Once again, your reading comprehension is proven to need A LOT of improvement.
New Mutants Vol.1 #40. Mags confirms that Warlock was Critically Damaged by Herc's Metal Adamantine Mace (a magical weapon that amps the blunt force damage of Herc's attacks when he uses it). Panel 2 has Mags CONFIRMING that Warlock was barely alive. Panel 3 has Mags feeding Warlock EM energies on a small level since too high a level would end up KILLING Warlock in his weakened state.
Page 19. Panel 3 has Magneto CLEARLY STATES that Warlock is STARVED FOR ENERGY and that Warlock would end up FEEDING on those Avengers before Warlock even realized what he was doing. Thus, Warlock was in a FEEDING FRENZIED state. If Warlock was TRULY DYING, he would NOT have been able to move, let alone attack those Avengers.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Theres a big difference between MAGIC-BASED and HIGH INTENSITY MAGNETIC FLUX BASED forcefield, prove that they are using the SAME TYPE of Shield that Mags is using and that said Shield is the SAME LEVEL of INTEGRITY (FIELD STRENGTH
Why?
are the Force Fields that GLs use the SAME type of Force Fields that Psionic Based TK users (Jean Grey, Psylocke, etc.) use?
Remember, your claim regarding the force fields used by Eclipso and/or Hecate in comparison w/ those used by Mags HINGES on this question
GL force fields are stronger than psionic force fields. That's all that matters.
Are you honestly saying that Magneto's force field is stronger than Eclipso or Hecate!
BTW , It was mentioned by Dionysis that it would take a high yield atomic bomb to blast through the level of Invulnerability that Dionysus has. He's the OLDER brother of Herc and was actually JUST AS STRONG as Herc when he was in his prime. Herc's Invulnerability is WAAAAY > than that of Dionysus. Herc's gotten back up from being pounded on repeatedly by Thor on MANY occasions. He's even been gotten back up from being pounded on by a FULLY HYDRATED Namor on 2 occasions. Namor THOUGHT that he had KO'd Herc at one point, but it was later revealed that Herc was FAKING it.
Also, Supe's Invulnerability is based on how his Kryptonian Physiology is affected by the Photoelectric Effect. You'd KNOW THAT if you actually READ UP on him and actually KNEW the Physics of his powers. Carol Danvers, Rogue, Pauly, and Herc each have DIFFERENT TYPES Invulnerability than Kryptonians do. In fact, Diana has the SAME TYPE of Invulnerability that Herc does since they are BOTH Scions of Zeus. She-Hulk has a type of Invulnerability that's the SAME TYPE as her cousin's (Hulk), but is WAAAAY WEAKER than his.
you have YET to prove that Supes' Invulnerability CANNOT be weakened by High Level EM hax. BTW, we've ALL seen that Supes' Invulnerability can be BREACHED by MAGICAL WEAPONS as well as weapons made of certain materials.
Manchester Black proved that TK of sufficient level and focus can be used to BREACH Supe's Invulnerability.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Why?GL force fields are stronger than psionic force fields. That's all that matters.
Are you honestly saying that Magneto's force field is stronger than Eclipso or Hecate!
no, I'm saying their forcefields doesn't operate the same, never said Mags was stronger, just that Mags forcefield is magnetic flux based. It's not magic like Eclip's smh
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
BTW , It was mentioned by Dionysis that it would take a high yield atomic bomb to blast through the level of Invulnerability that Dionysus has. He's the OLDER brother of Herc and was actually JUST AS STRONG as Herc when he was in his prime. Herc's Invulnerability is WAAAAY > than that of Dionysus. Herc's gotten back up from being pounded on repeatedly by Thor on MANY occasions. He's even been gotten back up from being pounded on by a FULLY HYDRATED Namor on 2 occasions. Namor THOUGHT that he had KO'd Herc at one point, but it was later revealed that Herc was FAKING it.
And Superman has mentioned that even supeenovas can't harm him, same with Cyborg Superman.
If only self praise was a feat.
Thor and Namor are both far weaker than Superman. What's your point?
Also, Supe's Invulnerability is based on how his Kryptonian Physiology is affected by the Photoelectric Effect. You'd KNOW THAT if you actually READ UP on him and actually KNEW the Physics of his powers. Carol Danvers, Rogue, Pauly, and Herc each have DIFFERENT TYPES Invulnerability than Kryptonians do. In fact, Diana has the SAME TYPE of Invulnerability that Herc does since they are BOTH Scions of Zeus. She-Hulk has a type of Invulnerability that's the SAME TYPE as her cousin's (Hulk), but is WAAAAY WEAKER than his.
You're talking about Superman and asking me to read about him?
Bwahaha. Oh the sheer irony. Invulnerablity is invulnerablity, little troll. Thor isn't invulnerable and has stated so himself.
you have YET to prove that Supes' Invulnerability CANNOT be weakened by High Level EM hax. BTW, we've ALL seen that Supes' Invulnerability can be BREACHED by MAGICAL WEAPONS as well as weapons made of certain materials.
Why do I have to prove you wrong? Why don't you prove your point first and show Magneto actually harming an invulnerable being.
Manchester Black proved that TK of sufficient level and focus can be used to BREACH Supe's Invulnerability.
Black is far more powerful than Magneto.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
no, I'm saying their forcefields doesn't operate the same, never said Mags was stronger, just that Mags forcefield is magnetic flux based. It's not magic like Eclip's smh
Your irrational hatred for Superman is just amusing at this point.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And Superman has mentioned that even supeenovas can't harm him, same with Cyborg Superman.If only self praise was a feat.
Thor and Namor are both far weaker than Superman. What's your point?
You're talking about Superman and asking me to read about him?
Bwahaha. Oh the sheer irony. Invulnerablity is invulnerablity, little troll. Thor isn't invulnerable and has stated so himself.
Why do I have to prove you wrong? Why don't you prove your point first and show Magneto actually harming an invulnerable being.
Black is far more powerful than Magneto.
Bruh Even the COMICS shown and/or explain DIFFERENT TYPES of Invulnerability.
I NEVER stated that Thor was invulnerable....
Mags has actually used his powers to beat Xavier who's > in TP hax than Manchester Black. Show me something that Manchestor did that's above Xavier, I'll wait
Mags does NOT USE Psionic based Force Fields. Stop making unsubstantiated claims.
Answer my question. Remember, I asked you FIRST. Yes or No, are the force fields that Hecate and/or Eclipso use the SAME TYPE that Mags uses?
I already posted the scan of Mags BLOODBENDING Herc who's OFFICIAL STATS CONFIRM that Herc has the INVULNERABILITY power.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Bruh Even the COMICS shown and/or explain DIFFERENT TYPES of Invulnerability.
Post a simple scan that says so.
I NEVER stated that Thor was invulnerable....
Then neither is Hercules.
Mags has actually used his powers to beat Xavier who's > in TP hax than Manchester Black. Show me something that Manchestor did that's above Xavier, I'll wait
Black casually repaired Bizarro's mind (J'onn couldn't even read his mind, rewired Doomsday's genetic hatred for Superman to view Imperiex probes as Superman and controlled beings from hundreds of alternate universes).
And we are talking about TK here, not TP.
Mags does NOT USE Psionic based Force Fields. Stop making unsubstantiated claims.
Who said that? I said GLs field is superior to TK field of Jean and Rachel.
Answer my question. Remember, I asked you FIRST. Yes or No, are the force fields that Hecate and/or Eclipso use the SAME TYPE that Mags uses?
No but why is that important?
I already posted the scan of Mags BLOODBENDING Herc who's OFFICIAL STATS CONFIRM that Herc has the INVULNERABILITY power.
Bios are useless. I've already shown Hercules isn't invulnerable.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Post a simple scan that says so.Then neither is Hercules.
Black casually repaired Bizarro's mind (J'onn couldn't even read his mind, rewired Doomsday's genetic hatred for Superman to view Imperiex probes as Superman and controlled beings from hundreds of alternate universes).
And we are talking about TK here, not TP.
Who said that? I said GLs field is superior to TK field of Jean and Rachel.
No but why is that important?
Bios are useless. I've already shown Hercules isn't invulnerable.
.. lol what? The Average GL force field is NOT > than that of a FULL POWER Rachel Summers BEFORE she lost her Phoenix Force portion. Thus, Current Rachel is STILL WEAKENED.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
.. lol what? The Average GL force field is NOT > than that of a FULL POWER Rachel Summers BEFORE she lost her Phoenix Force portion. Thus, Current Rachel is STILL WEAKENED.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And Hercules has enhanced strength compared to other Olympians, not invulnerablity.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Bios are useless. I've already shown Hercules isn't invulnerable.
Nobody is truly invulnerable.
It's just their way of describing someone with superhuman durability. Warpath has "invulnerability" as a part of his powerset, too... even though he is fairly easy to hurt.
Herc is more durable than Thor in general.
Originally posted by carver9
Hercules is invulnerable though. Hes rarely injured and have showed high end durability better than most Heralds.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Nobody is truly invulnerable.It's just their way of describing someone with superhuman durability. Warpath has "invulnerability" as a part of his powerset, too... even though he is fairly easy to hurt.
Herc is more durable than Thor in general.
Like I said, Sauron gave him third degree burns FFS.
Originally posted by abhilegendBecause Hercules is such a mid herald huh? Prove he has a terrible record. Show some scans, Hercules durability is far from “worst”
Name one such feat. Dude got third degree burns by Sauron's flames.
That's a misconception. Hercules has some of the worst showings of durability for someone with the reputation he has.Like I said, Sauron gave him third degree burns FFS.