Magneto vs Justice League

etro's speed was perm amepd over a year before JLA Avengers to MMMFTL levels but were still NOT close to Flash's speeds. Wanda is a Reality Warper who's hex bolts can even make a crack in Primary Adamantium, Polaris has used her EM hax powers to LITERALLY EJECT the original Krakoa into space. Herc's strength is on par w/ Thor's even AFTER Thor got perm amped TWICE. Goliath 1's strength (Clint Barton) was near to and/or on par w/ Thor's Pre 1st perm amped level of strength. Iron Man has used his armor's Overdrive Protocol to KO an Enraged Hulk years earlier. Herc is STRONGER than Namor when Namor's out of water. Even both out and/or in water, Namor is STILL STRONGER than Aquaman. Namor was NEVER able to punch through a Non-Weakened Mag's full power shields. The ONLY time that Namor actually beat Mags was due to Mags being exhausted due to having cracked ribs. Even then, it took a while for Mags to get exhausted. Thus, your claim that a group of those guys don't have the same and/or near the same level of combined strength as that JL is honestly ridiculous imo

Please show Base Supes, Base N52 Diana, Base Aquaman, Base Cyborg, Base Bats, and/or Base Flash doing the same level of Reality Warp that Wanda did w/out amp, prep, and/or tech. Remember, when Wanda did her best Reality Warp, she DEPOWERED ALMOST ALL of Earth 616's Random Mutants. That's a feat that NONE of the BASE versions of that JL team have ever done w/out amp, prep, and/or tech.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
etro's speed was perm amepd over a year before JLA Avengers to MMMFTL levels but were still NOT close to Flash's speeds. Wanda is a Reality Warper who's hex bolts can even make a crack in Primary Adamantium, Polaris has used her EM hax powers to LITERALLY EJECT the original Krakoa into space. Herc's strength is on par w/ Thor's even AFTER Thor got perm amped TWICE. Goliath 1's strength (Clint Barton) was near to and/or on par w/ Thor's Pre 1st perm amped level of strength. Iron Man has used his armor's Overdrive Protocol to KO an Enraged Hulk years earlier. Herc is STRONGER than Namor when Namor's out of water. Even both out and/or in water, Namor is STILL STRONGER than Aquaman. Namor was NEVER able to punch through a Non-Weakened Mag's full power shields. The ONLY time that Namor actually beat Mags was due to Mags being exhausted due to having cracked ribs. Even then, it took a while for Mags to get exhausted. Thus, your claim that a group of those guys don't have the same and/or near the same level of combined strength as that JL is honestly ridiculous imo

Please show Base Supes, Base N52 Diana, Base Aquaman, Base Cyborg, Base Bats, and/or Base Flash doing the same level of Reality Warp that Wanda did w/out amp, prep, and/or tech. Remember, when Wanda did her best Reality Warp, she DEPOWERED ALMOST ALL of Earth 616's Random Mutants. That's a feat that NONE of the BASE versions of that JL team have ever done w/out amp, prep, and/or tech.

No, the Avengers you mentioned don't match up.

@abhi

An amp CAN make shields LESS DURABLE if it's UNSTABLE. For example, when Fabian Cortez uses his Power Amplification ability on a mutant, it AMPS that mutant's powers up to 3 levels in power to the point that the mutant LOSES CONTROL of his powers and they become UNSTABLE. Understand? Even when Supes was a God of Strength for a time, he got so amped from it that he was NOT able to properly control his strength for a while. This is from the OFFICIAL STATS for Fabian Cortez. Notice where it CONFIRMS that he can amp a person's powers to the point that they have major problems CONTROLLING their powers. Thus, their powers become UNSTABLE

You do realise when trolling you are generally supposed to use less effort than those you troll?

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Superman is Superman
Hal is Hal
Wonder woman beats the shit out of Herc or Namor
Flash is Flash

No, the Avengers you mentioned don't match up.

Not saying your wrong, but just curious whats your reason

I don't think Namor would beat Diana, i agree with you on that

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Not saying your wrong, but just curious whats your reason

I don't think Namor would beat Diana, i agree with you on that

Tbh Hal, Firestorm or Captain Atom would destroy Magneto. Iron Man vs Firestorm, his armour is turned into methane... seriously.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Tbh Hal, Firestorm or Captain Atom would destroy Magneto. Iron Man vs Firestorm, his armour is turned into methane... seriously.

Yea I think firestorm would beat Magneto

this is from the storyline where Mags saves Kitty. He has NO PROBLEM sensing an Intergalactic Bullet from a galaxy away that Kitty was stuck inside of. The High Evolutionary CONFIRMS that the bullet was PHASED at the time Mags detected it. He sensed it FASTER than the High Evolutionary's Long Range Sensors were able to. Bear in mind that the H.E.'s Long Range Sensors can even track Galactus when he's galaxies away. Remember, that bullet was traveling at or near Hyperspace level speeds. Mags even MEMORIZES the unique EM signature of the metal in Kitty's body so that he can later save her. Thus, the claim that he's not fast enough in the use of his powers to sense and/or react to Flash when Flash's is generating electricity is NOT supported at all by the comics.:

honestly, that's evidence that Mags could sense Flash even if Flash is using Vibration based Phasing since we know that when Flash uses Vibration past a certain level, he generates Electrical Charges due to his Vibration exciting the electrons to a higher energy level. It would be like lighting a road flare in pitch black night to someone that can sense EM energy

@Abhi, Saint @putin

Mags can even solo a Technarch King via the use of his EM hax powers. He's the ONLY member of the X-Men that can actually KILL a Warlock of the Technarch (who's a Technarch King) via using his powers. He even SAVED an Avengers Team from being EATEN by a Starvation Mad Warlock. Luckily, Mags was HOLDING BACK since he ONLY KO'd Warlock. Technarch Kings are so powerful that they can EASILY PHYSICALLY tear a star in half and fling half like NOTHING while carrying the other half across the known universe. We saw this when Warlock's father, Magus, did such a feat. Technarch Kings can CONSUME the lifeforces of entire HORDES of Demons. This was confirmed in the Inferno Event. Even Hela DID NOT want to mess w/ Warlock. Thus, I've matched and TOPPED that. This scan is from New Mutants Vol.1 #18. Please show either Base Supes or Amazon PHYSICALLY TEARING a star in half and then flinging half of it LIKE NOTHING.:

He was able to serve as a Surrogate Nervous System for Tiamut for a short time.
imagine the sheer amount of energies that were INSIDE of Tiamut. He was WAAAAY > than the Average Celestial. Mags was able to channel a PORTION of those energies

So your argument hinges on non canon sources, i.e. Thor vs Superman?

Lol. Jla/Avengers is inadmissible as proof.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Base unamped Supes was EXHAUSTED after fighting Thor. He was BARELY able to stand. Both he and Thor were HOLDING BACK. Herc is equal to Thor in strength. Mags proved that his powers can EASILY break Herc's bear hug. He did the as t feat with broken ribs. Mags was even holding back at the time due to promise he made to Xavier.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@abhi

An amp CAN make shields LESS DURABLE if it's UNSTABLE. For example, when Fabian Cortez uses his Power Amplification ability on a mutant, it AMPS that mutant's powers up to 3 levels in power to the point that the mutant LOSES CONTROL of his powers and they become UNSTABLE. Understand? Even when Supes was a God of Strength for a time, he got so amped from it that he was NOT able to properly control his strength for a while. This is from the OFFICIAL STATS for Fabian Cortez. Notice where it CONFIRMS that he can amp a person's powers to the point that they have major problems CONTROLLING their powers. Thus, their powers become UNSTABLE

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@Abhi, Saint @putin

Mags can even solo a Technarch King via the use of his EM hax powers. He's the ONLY member of the X-Men that can actually KILL a Warlock of the Technarch (who's a Technarch King) via using his powers. He even SAVED an Avengers Team from being EATEN by a Starvation Mad Warlock. Luckily, Mags was HOLDING BACK since he ONLY KO'd Warlock. Technarch Kings are so powerful that they can EASILY PHYSICALLY tear a star in half and fling half like NOTHING while carrying the other half across the known universe. We saw this when Warlock's father, Magus, did such a feat. Technarch Kings can CONSUME the lifeforces of entire HORDES of Demons. This was confirmed in the Inferno Event. Even Hela DID NOT want to mess w/ Warlock. Thus, I've matched and TOPPED that. This scan is from New Mutants Vol.1 #18. Please show either Base Supes or Amazon PHYSICALLY TEARING a star in half and then flinging half of it LIKE NOTHING.:

Determined Superman can cut through a multiversal singularity.

Alternatively with the way Mags forms his shield Superman could probably just rub his hands together and cancel it out with super friction. That would be more rare though. More likely he punches in.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
@Abhi, Saint @putin

Mags can even solo a Technarch King via the use of his EM hax powers. He's the ONLY member of the X-Men that can actually KILL a Warlock of the Technarch (who's a Technarch King) via using his powers. He even SAVED an Avengers Team from being EATEN by a Starvation Mad Warlock. Luckily, Mags was HOLDING BACK since he ONLY KO'd Warlock. Technarch Kings are so powerful that they can EASILY PHYSICALLY tear a star in half and fling half like NOTHING while carrying the other half across the known universe. We saw this when Warlock's father, Magus, did such a feat. Technarch Kings can CONSUME the lifeforces of entire HORDES of Demons. This was confirmed in the Inferno Event. Even Hela DID NOT want to mess w/ Warlock. Thus, I've matched and TOPPED that. This scan is from New Mutants Vol.1 #18. Please show either Base Supes or Amazon PHYSICALLY TEARING a star in half and then flinging half of it LIKE NOTHING.:

Originally posted by abhilegend
Eclipso is the dark opposite to Hecate and even more powerful than her.

That means Superman actually oneshotted a multiversal being with his HV here.

LMAO

Originally posted by abhilegend
Where did Magneto fight a technarch?

New Mutants Vol.1 #40. It's the same issue where he proved that he can expand his High Intensity Magnetic Flux Field so fast and so powerfully that he almost dislocated Herc's shoulders. Warlock (the Technarch) had been injured by the Avengers w/out them realizing that he was not a vehicle. He was so starved for energy that he entered a Feeding Frenzy state. Magneto used his powers to KO Warlock in order to save that Avengers team. Mags also fought Warlock and the other New Mutants in a Danger Room session in #35 of that series. Mags is and/or was the only member of the X-Men and/or New Mutants (at the time) that could use his powers to successfully feed Warlock w/out being in danger of being infected w/ the Transmode Virus. Bear in mind that Technarchs can even FEED on demons and gods as well as mutants and aliens. In fact, the Phalanx WORK for the Technarch. It's something that's become a theme in the Hickman run of House of X and Powers of X.

Also, Warlock was EASILY able to match Impossible Man in power. In fact, Warlock BEAT Impy in a shapeshifting contest. The ONLY 2 beings that Technarchs are really afraid of are Galactus and their own children. Warlock is a Mutant of the Technarch race. He's basically the most "Pacifistic" in nature of his race.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
New Mutants Vol.1 #40. It's the same issue where he proved that he can expand his High Intensity Magnetic Flux Field so fast and so powerfully that he almost dislocated Herc's shoulders. Warlock (the Technarch) had been injured by the Avengers w/out them realizing that he was not a vehicle. He was so starved for energy that he entered a Feeding Frenzy state. Magneto used his powers to KO Warlock in order to save that Avengers team. Mags also fought Warlock and the other New Mutants in a Danger Room session in #35 of that series. Mags is and/or was the only member of the X-Men and/or New Mutants (at the time) that could use his powers to successfully feed Warlock w/out being in danger of being infected w/ the Transmode Virus. Bear in mind that Technarchs can even FEED on demons and gods as well as mutants and aliens. In fact, the Phalanx WORK for the Technarch. It's something that's become a theme in the Hickman run of House of X and Powers of X.

Also, Warlock was EASILY able to match Impossible Man in power. In fact, Warlock BEAT Impy in a shapeshifting contest. The ONLY 2 beings that Technarchs are really afraid of are Galactus and their own children. Warlock is a Mutant of the Technarch race. He's basically the most "Pacifistic" in nature of his race.

Warlock was almost near death there. Stop trolling.

The position of Herc's arms when Mags did that feat to break the bear hug. I've seen certain MA techniques that break such holds so fast and powerful that they can dislocate shoulders.

Warlock was NOT near death. He was STARVING since a Technarch needs to feed in order to heal itself. Notice that he was going into a Feeding Frenzy state. If Mags hadn't stopped him, Warlock would have EATEN that Avengers team. Technarchs are SCARY AS F!