Originally posted by TheHulksterI think the argument is that, while Superman did attempt to jump off the planet numerous times beforehand, it was only that *final* jump, where he dug much deeper than he had in all the previous attempts before, that gave Supes the extra "oomph" he needed to actually propel himself off the world... And the aforementioned "oomph" was sufficient for him to shatter the entire planet as a corollary.
Im speaking of one Superman jumping more than 50 times. I stated above the writer emphasized repeated jumps along the same axis. He does this for a reason IMO. That's evidence enough to cause doubt.
Imo it's borderline baseless to argue that Snyder subliminally suggested that every single jump beforehand was weakening the underlying structure of the planet, when literally NO evidence(be it via artistic depiction OR narration) alludes to such an idea. I mean, lets no try to act like Snyder was trying to take a soft approach to Superman's feats in that arc... After all, a few issues later Superman amped for a few seconds and proceeded to one-shot a multiversal being(along with his duplicate multiverse), ffs.
Either way, trying to bring undue real world logic into a story where multiverses are being created, and talking starfish are helping the JL save the day is a bit foolish, imo...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But then that ignores the rest of what the writer wrote. Which is that every one of those repeated jumps - failed. It was to illustrate the sheer futility of his actions - and the stubbornness of Superman- everything he said and did, the WF had heard 50 times before.
I don't think that WF is anywhere around to hear or see those previous jumps. I agree that the stubbornness is an emphasis. He keeps on trying. I don't think that futility comes into play since the repeated efforts are not futile.
Originally posted by Galan007
I think the argument is that, while Superman did attempt to jump off the planet numerous times beforehand, it was only that *final* jump, where he dug much deeper than he had in all the previous attempts before, that gave Supes the extra "oomph" he needed to actually propel himself off the world... And the aforementioned "oomph" was sufficient for him to shatter the entire planet as a corollary.Imo it's borderline baseless to argue that Snyder subliminally suggested that every single jump beforehand was weakening the underlying structure of the planet, when literally NO evidence(be it via artistic depiction OR narration) alludes to such an idea. I mean, lets no try to act like Snyder was trying to take a soft approach to Superman's feats in that arc... After all, a few issues later Superman amped for a few seconds and proceeded to one-shot a multiversal being(along with his duplicate multiverse), ffs.
Either way, trying to bring undue real world logic into a story where multiverses are being created, and talking starfish are helping the JL save the day is a bit foolish, imo...
Pretty much.
The preceding pages even show Clark giving life lessons in perseverance, in lighting that remembrance lantern. To keep trying, even if it seems a waste of time.
And that ultimately, he IS tradition - and WILL get off the planet.
Originally posted by NemeBro
If only the last Superman just jumped fifty more times. 🙁
If the planet was weak from all those jumps and the a weakened Superman made why did WF offer to have superman stay on that planet indefinitely if it was unstable? I mean Wf would know if the planet was breaking apart right? He told Superman to go on the other side of the planet there is a garden for him, he could live there but oh because he jumped 50 times the planet is weakened and is about to explode.
if superman were to generate the force needed to destroy a planet by leaping off into a kick to the purple chin, thanos begs death to let him die.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
I don't think that WF is anywhere around to hear or see those previous jumps. I agree that the stubbornness is an emphasis. He keeps on trying. I don't think that futility comes into play since the repeated efforts are not futile.
Well, in the scene you are emphasising, with the exact same axis etc -
He's falling shorter every time. With ZERO evidence of any weakening of the planet.
Originally posted by Diesldude
If the planet was weak from all those jumps and the a weakened Superman made why did WF offer to have superman stay on that planet indefinitely if it was unstable? I mean Wf would know if the planet was breaking apart right? He told Superman to go on the other side of the planet there is a garden for him, he could live there but oh because he jumped 50 times the planet is weakened and is about to explode.if superman were to generate the force needed to destroy a planet by leaping off into a kick to the purple chin, thanos begs death to let him die.
Why would WF know this?
Originally posted by Diesldude
not even a surface level crack.
Why did you leave out the previous page where we see all kinds of things happening to the ground.
Even if he did "weaken" the planet's structure, they barley amounted to anything significant. If anything WF slamming supes on the planet was the most significant blow prior to the final jump. The art depiction on that scene was quite telling. The jumps probably amounted to even less than. The planet seemed to be pretty much intact after all that.
Final jump. Then shatter.
Still confused about this one-shotting a multiverse. Wasnt it becuz of WF not being able to strike the crisis anvil?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17multiverse was there, striking the anvil would have replaced the mainstream multiverse with WF’s new multiverse. Striking the WF knocked him out and the rest of the force destroyed the WF’s multiverse and then there was still enough force left to create a continent wide crater on a 6th dimensional planet.
Even if he did "weaken" the planet's structure, they barley amounted to anything significant. If anything WF slamming supes on the planet was the most significant blow prior to the final jump. The art depiction on that scene was quite telling. The jumps probably amounted to even less than. The planet seemed to be pretty much intact after all that.
Final jump. Then shatter.Still confused about this one-shotting a multiverse. Wasnt it becuz of WF not being able to strike the crisis anvil?
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Why did you leave out the previous page where we see all kinds of things happening to the ground.
Originally posted by NemeBro
multiverse was there, striking the anvil would have replaced the mainstream multiverse with WF’s new multiverse. Striking the WF knocked him out and the rest of the force destroyed the WF’s multiverse and then there was still enough force left to create a continent wide crater on a 6th dimensional planet.