Originally posted by DiesldudeI wonder if he's worried about the collateral damage to innocents or Superman himself.
Because he tells us that Superman wasn’t going lo just stop and become a statue. He was afraid that he would become a bullet going thousands of miles an hour. Bottom right of the scan.
Originally posted by Stoic
I never knew that the speed steal could wear off? I mean what about being frozen in time for what may as well be a million years?
It depends on how he does it and to what extent.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Amazo was never a statue to begin with, no implications that the effects wore off or something.
It was moot. The point is that there is nothing saying he can't do it again. He'd also be amped off whatever speed he stole from Supes.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It depends on how he does it and to what extent.It was moot. The point is that there is nothing saying he can't do it again. He'd also be amped off whatever speed he stole from Supes.
I've never really thought about Flash's analogy there...
Why would stealing all of his kinetic energy be like throwing him out of a car? Obviously if it was all of Supes' kinetic energy he would just... stop. So what exactly is Flash stealing in that analogy? Just like... Supes' self-generated acceleration and control?
Originally posted by Smurph
I've never really thought about Flash's analogy there...Why would stealing all of his kinetic energy be like throwing him out of a car? Obviously if it was all of Supes' kinetic energy he would just... stop. So what exactly is Flash stealing in that analogy? Just like... Supes' self-generated acceleration and control?
Yeah the whole thing doesn't make sense. I guess the writer tried to make it sound like Superman runs into a brick wall, but still has..... kinetic energy to create collateral damage? Yet specifically says ALL kinetic energy is stolen.
Originally posted by Smurph
I've never really thought about Flash's analogy there...Why would stealing all of his kinetic energy be like throwing him out of a car? Obviously if it was all of Supes' kinetic energy he would just... stop. So what exactly is Flash stealing in that analogy? Just like... Supes' self-generated acceleration and control?
It makes sense, if he stops Superman cold, meaning superman can’t move or control himself. So he’s essentially a invulnerable bullet going 2k miles per second and would destroy everything in his path from wherever he was to Moscow.
Originally posted by DiesldudeBut the energy that would be taking him on a path of destruction to Moscow would be kinetic energy... which Flash just stole...
It makes sense, if he stops Superman cold, meaning superman can’t move or control himself. So he’s essentially a invulnerable bullet going 2k miles per second and would destroy everything in his path from wherever he was to Moscow.
If mean, if Flash stole all the energy from a railway line at top speed, it's not like the train would therefore run off the tracks and cause disaster. It would just stop.
Originally posted by Diesldude
It makes sense, if he stops Superman cold, meaning superman can’t move or control himself. So he’s essentially a invulnerable bullet going 2k miles per second and would destroy everything in his path from wherever he was to Moscow.
If he stops him cold, and he can't move, how is he moving at 2k miles a second?
Originally posted by h1a8but if Flash stole his velocity then we have the same problem right? If Superman loses all velocity then it's not like throwing him from a car. It would be like slowing the car down to zero.
Stupid writing. Steal velocity means what it says. Just as Flash stole the cakes velocity to make them fall like feathers
I think Flash is just describing stealing Superman's ability to continually accelerate and control his speed... which is weird.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He was half dead against Amazo, which he isn't here. There's never been a scene where Superman bites Batman's finger off, so I conclude that....he can't?
Random strawman works against carver, not me.
Half dead or not, Wally never stole speed twice from someone, ever.
PIS, CIS is off which we don't have in comics. Neither has Flash ever had to fight Superman for the fate of the word
They still fight in character. Wally stealing speed again and again would be out of character, because he has simply never done so.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Random strawman works against carver, not me.Half dead or not, Wally never stole speed twice from someone, ever.
They still fight in character. Wally stealing speed again and again would be out of character, because he has simply never done so.
Originally posted by Smurph
CIS is on
So still speed steal. Creation on the line brings to mind Batmanhattan Who Laughs.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Random strawman works against carver, not me.Half dead or not, Wally never stole speed twice from someone, ever.
They still fight in character. Wally stealing speed again and again would be out of character, because he has simply never done so.
Also, I don't think it's a strawman. You're arguing we've never seen it before in comics; I'm saying if he had to, he would - if all of Creation was on the line, against Superman who he knows it's suicidal to go h2h with. You're saying despite knowing Superman, knowing it's suicidal to fight him, he'll....fight him, with these stakes. Ok.
Just because he's never done so, doesn't mean he can't- as my analogy proves.
Moreover, your argument is moot, because he's never had the same stipulations as in the OP.