Originally posted by Patient_Leech
That's more like it. 👆 👌But I would say that though there ARE many hypocritical leaders of the Christian Right who blatantly go against what they're supposed to stand for (homosexuality, child pornography, molestation, etc) a lot of the *supporters* of the Christian Right are genuinely nice and misguided. I say this because much of my family is just misguided. But yes, the cult leaders are much more insidious and diabolical. Cancerous trash.
Your beliefs do not make you a good person, your actions do. If you believe good things, but do bad things, then you are still a bad person. We need to stop carrying water for people who think and say the right things, but then throw all of those purported beliefs and values out the window when it comes time to put their money where their mouths are.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Perhaps if Trump was a democrat and a strong supporter of mass infantacide -- instead of being all the other things you mentioned about him -- like literally every democrat nominee is then I suppose you'd have no problem believing he was chosen by God or whatever lol. As if God would actually be ok with that lol.For the record, I don't think Trump is anything close to being a saint or Christ-like but I do thank God nearly every day that he is president and that b*tch Hillary ain't. I do not worship him regardless of what idiots like Adam may think but I do think he postponed the fall of America for several years by becoming president.
Our economny was in the shitter under Obama despite what you may think (although I agree that the warmonger Bush had a lot to do with that) and we were on the road to economic collapse. Trump averted that for at least a short period, imo, and I still believe and no one will convince me otherwise that if Hillary had been electe4d that we woiuld've gotten into a nuclear war by now.
If a Christian baker cannot bake a cake for a gay couple, because that would be supporting their sin, then how can a Christian voter cast a ballot for an adulterer and whoremonger without also supporting his sin?
It seems like a pretty selective application of your biblical principles.
Moreover, why would you wish to delay any of the things you believe Trump has delayed?
If you believe in the second coming, then why would you wish to delay the events that must come to pass before Jesus returns?
It is almost like you are not confident of your salvation, and want to delay the judgment.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Your beliefs do not make you a good person, your actions do. If you believe good things, but do bad things, then you are still a bad person.
You're like a Christian Prophet with those words:
James 2:18,19
18. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
All Praise Prophet Poe for his words are just and righteous.
Could Trump's cultists be jumping ship??
Christianity Today calls for Trump's removal from office following impeachment
Trump Should Be Removed from Office <--- Christianity Today (CT)
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Could Trump's cultists be jumping ship??Christianity Today calls for Trump's removal from office following impeachment
Trump Should Be Removed from Office <--- Christianity Today (CT)
I was reading about that.
It was weird and surprising.
But, but, but!!!!
Did these same groups ever throw support behind Trump? I am more than happy to call Christians hypocrites, yet again, but I'd like to make sure that these are the same ones supporting a racist, sexist, adulterous, rapist, murderer. If they are, let the fair-weather insults flow.
Also, that Judge dude has been railing against Trump for 2-3 years, now. Anything he says that is anti-Trump shouldn't be surprising. He's also a Libertarian. Libertarians are not best friends with the Authoritarian, Warmongering, Democrats and Republicans.
It's a good question. I don't know how supportive they were of Trump beforehand, but I do know that the Evangelical "Community" loves and admires Billy Graham, so I imagine his magazine must have a pretty big impact.
I just wonder if Focks News 24-hour propaganda machine will cover this or if it will just be a minor blurb on the outskirts of the internet.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
Could Trump's cultists be jumping ship??Christianity Today calls for Trump's removal from office following impeachment
Trump Should Be Removed from Office <--- Christianity Today (CT)
However, "the facts in this instance are unambiguous: The president of the United States attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader to harass and discredit one of the president’s political opponents. That is not only a violation of the Constitution; more importantly, it is profoundly immoral," -snip
The reason many are not shocked about this is that this president has dumbed down the idea of morality in his administration. He has hired and fired a number of people who are now convicted criminals. He himself has admitted to immoral actions in business and his relationship with women, about which he remains proud. His Twitter feed alone—with its habitual string of mischaracterizations, lies, and slanders—is a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused. -snip
Whether Mr. Trump should be removed from office by the Senate or by popular vote next election—that is a matter of prudential judgment. That he should be removed, we believe, is not a matter of partisan loyalties but loyalty to the Creator of the Ten Commandments. -snip
Color me surprised. But I sincerely doubt this will sway many Evangelical voters in 2020. We'll see though; the voting data will be interesting to look at.
Trump of course is throwing a hissy fit over it and goes on to prove this person's points via more unhinged tweets.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Voting for someone and worshipping them are two entirely different things
In our duopoly political system, a vote for someone can often represent a vote AGAINST another. In this case, many votes for Trump - a ton of them were Democrats - were actually votes against Hillary.
Evangelical support of Trump is actually huge: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/
Edit: ^ That was in 2016, we'll see how Evangelicals do in 2020.
Considering there are about 95million people who identify as Evangelicals in the US, that's a huge potential voting pool to draw from.
@robbie: of course it's huge. He's pro-life while all the democrats support late-tem abortion (hell, some even support killing the baby AFTER it's been born). Big deal. That doesn't mean they worship him lol.
Anyone who is truly Christian knows deep down that abortion is wrong... very wrong. It's not just some minor side issue with evangelicals.
Originally posted by Robtard
Evangelical support of Trump is actually huge: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/Edit: ^ That was in 2016, we'll see how Evangelicals do in 2020.
Considering there are about 95million people who identify as Evangelicals in the US, that's a huge potential voting pool to draw from.
Which democrat voter should earn the evangelical support then? Creepy Joe? Do tel who Christians should vote for if not Trump.