HP Doomsday vs Hulk

Originally posted by Proper_
Displaying such strength and or durability of a high caliber definitely shows what tier the character is operating on. Sure if you can contend with that character and display equal or above showings. What I’m saying is most of those characters he was fighting against we’re not really that powerful at the time and later got amped during post crisis.

Colossus contended with Glads. Does that make him a low or mid Herald?

In comics highest fests are meaningless. Why? Because the character is not operating no where near that level when they are contending with someone else.

But all this is irrelevant since HP DD stomps all versions of Hulk except WBH.

Nah. Green Scar Hulk would be above or around most doomsday’s incarnation including post crises and rebirth. WBH would smash most versions of Doomsday. Hulk has a major thing working in his favor besides just hax. His rage empowerment is something he has no answer for. Hulk already has his own instinctive reaction and precognition, and is constantly gaining power because of rage. A. Gets outdone by Hulk’s increasing power or B. Gets Hulk mad and/or traumatized enough to activate his Reactive Evolution and Power Modification.

Originally posted by Proper_
We have not seen WBH harmed at all.

Yes we have. Several times. By Betty (the only other person he was fighting at the time of the WBH).

Now, some have said that he went WBH several times, including on Earth. He was physically hurt then as well, by Skaar.

Saying we have NOT seen WBH harmed AT ALL (my emphasis) os false. Especially in reply to my post which directly references physical attacks.

Originally posted by Proper_
Nah. Green Scar Hulk would be above or around most doomsday’s incarnation including post crises and rebirth. WBH would smash most versions of Doomsday. Hulk has a major thing working in his favor besides just hax. His rage empowerment is something he has no answer for. Hulk already has his own instinctive reaction and precognition, and is constantly gaining power because of rage. A. Gets outdone by Hulk’s increasing power or B. Gets Hulk mad and/or traumatized enough to activate his Reactive Evolution and Power Modification.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Eh?
He unlocked his full power for one arc where he was above herald level.

Mid heralds? Kyle was destroying planets long before that.

http://i.imgur.com/q0sQLW2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pCfhfA6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BGqOqDz.jpg

Destroys Mogo.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23364346/GreenLantern-Annual7-33.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23364347/GreenLantern-Annual7-34.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23364348/GreenLantern-Annual7-35.jpg.html

Even contained a supernova after creating a black hole in Solaris and then Superman prime destroyed Solaris (a star) by using his ring.

This is what you call a mid herald?

😂

He also has half dozen other planetary or above showings. Heck his shields have taken solar system destroying attacks without any issues.

https://imgur.com/a/s3ty2wq

Doomsday treated him as nothing.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Prove this. This is Kyle Rayner.

He also has half dozen other planetary or above showings. Heck his shields have taken solar system destroying attacks without any issues.

https://imgur.com/a/s3ty2wq

Doomsday treated him as nothing.

And don't get me wrong because I totally agree with you that DD is more powerful than homeboy is letting on, I'm just saying that Kyle probably isn't a good example to support the point.

Have you given up on the whole 'PM arguments and scans to posters' thing you had going on, Goob?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Have you given up on the whole 'PM arguments and scans to posters' thing you had going on, Goob?

Originally posted by darthgoober
I really think he's taking his position too far, but surely you see the problem with using Kyle as proof, right? I mean DD has the whole "adaptive" thing going on an he already encountered the GL corp long ago.

And don't get me wrong because I totally agree with you that DD is more powerful than homeboy is letting on, I'm just saying that Kyle probably isn't a good example to support the point.

There's nothing to suggest HP Doomsday was somehow more resistant to Kyle than others. He also no sold astro force and heat vision.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Have you given up on the whole 'PM arguments and scans to posters' thing you had going on, Goob?

Doomsday stomps.

Doomsday was at or above skyfather type of level here. Above pantheon gods and many cosmics. Let me know the minute Hulk steamrolls Zues or Odin like Doomsday did to Darkseid and we might have a discussion.

Haha no, I'm not passing judgement on it or anything. I just recall a time when he wouldn't take part in debates up front, but would let others post it for him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There's nothing to suggest HP Doomsday was somehow more resistant to Kyle than others. He also no sold astro force and heat vision.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Haha no, I'm not passing judgement on it or anything. I just recall a time when he wouldn't take part in debates up front, but would let others post it for him.

Darksaint is a trip. Just make him mod already.

Originally posted by carver9
Darksaint is a trip. Just make him mod already.

He would ban you and me in a heartbeat.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah that whole period was kinda cool. It really showed me just how much more influenced by ego people are than they realize. I could send basically the same points/arguments to two different people and the level of variance in people's responses to each would be crazy because people were a lot more willing to listen and civilly engage someone like Celey or myself than they are someone like carver. If there's one thing I learned, it's that NOBODY wants to concede a point to carver about ANYTHING lol

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He would ban you and me in a heartbeat.

Along with a lot of other people. Hes playing the role though, so why not give it to him.

I'd hate that role tbh.

Originally posted by lawest9
I'll offer this, and it is not necessarily aimed at Carver but people in general, I've noticed that people will respond more favorably towsrd anyone who lay their views down in a more himble approach as oppose to being arrogant and argumentative, it's in most of to respond negatively and to be oppositional when we are responding to someone of the attitude.

Yeah, because it is quite a rare thing for people to be polite on battleboards 😛

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'd hate that role tbh.

We are all Raz's pokemon. We belong to him.

If he chooses you, you must do as he says. Just look at Old Man Galan.