The music during the RotJ duel is also breathtaking. Everyone talks about Duel of the Fates or Battle of the Heroes but, while good, they don't hold a candle to the RotJ's duels music.
The music during the RotJ duel is also breathtaking. Everyone talks about Duel of the Fates or Battle of the Heroes but, while good, they don't hold a candle to the RotJ's duels music.
Originally posted by cdtm
Pretty much. All style over substance.Vader and Obi-Wan used actual dueling techniques and stances.
People who have magic powers, superhuman reflexes, and who can see the future should not fight like two old Kendo practitioners. It's not like lightsabers behave like real swords anyway.
Have have to agree.
Jedi that are super human in speed, reflexes, precog, etc , should be fighting way differently and more extreme than regular non jedi humans/aliens.
Even if the OT fights used correct fencing techniques, and sword styles from the real world, they still dont compare.
Thats why the PT fights are Superior even though in a few instances they went over the top with unnecessary twirls in flips and so on.
Still were miles better than the OT fights.
Originally posted by Trocity
The duel on Cloud City is by far my favourite duel from the movies. 👆Out of all on-screen duels, Ventress vs Anakin from OCW is awesome as well.
I loved the cloud city fight, an undertrained Luke going to face Vader to save his friends. And then the dramatic end to it all.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Oh that. Right. Yeah, wtf. The REBELS fight is amazing.
Originally posted by Galan007
Kenobi vs. Maul (Rebels)
I just dont get it. It was 3 moves. How amazing can 3 moves be?
From what ive seen the majority of peoples reaction to that fight was WTF?! And these arent Maul fanboys either. Just audiences stoked for a fight that had been hyped up and built up but wound up as nothing.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I just watched the rebels fight, amazing feat for obibut could definitely see why ppl were disappointed
(...)Dave Filoni now explains why the rematch went as it did, and how it simultaneously pays tribute to both Seven Samurai and The Phantom Menace.
The instinct would be, and probably, I admit, the expectation, is for some kind of prolonged lightsaber battle. But I’ve done a lot of prolonged lightsaber battles over the years and I think what’s most important about any kind of confrontation is what’s riding on it. What’s the tension going into it? It starts to matter less and less how you swing a sword or how creatively you do it if there’s not a lot riding on it. […]
It really is to express the difference between the Jedi and the Sith. Which is the Jedi become selfless and the Sith remain selfish. When pressed, because Obi-Wan is protecting someone else in the end, he does fight. But because he is so true and knows who he is in that moment, you can’t defeat that. So Obi-Wan is going to strike down Maul because Maul is such a broken and lost person, which I think is why in the end you see Maul being cradled by Obi-Wan.
This idea is that Obi-Wan is willing to forgive this person who is so cruel and terrible because he feels pity for him. To his dying breath Maul is hoping there will be some revenge exacted upon his enemies. And in my mind, Obi-Wan expresses sadness there because that means that Maul has never grown and will never be released from his suffering. So I felt that moment had to be beyond a lightsaber fight and had to be more an expression of their characters.
Filoni pointed toward Kyuzo, master swordsman of Akira Kurosawa’s Seven Samurai, as inspiration for Obi-Wan reluctantly accepting (and ending) the duel with knowledge of its quick outcome. As explained in post-show Rebels Recon, the duel also ends with Maul attempting the same hilt bash move that led to Qui-Gon Jinn’s death in The Phantom Menace, though the elder Kenobi anticipates and strikes through it.
https://screencrush.com/star-wars-rebels-maul-kenobi-duel-ending/
Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ Yeah I get all that Stilt. Ive listened to all the commentary.But if you need commentary to explain a fight then the execution was simply poor.
I posted it for Shadow. He only now watched the fight.
I understand what's bothering you about that scene, I do, but... after all those prolonged duels, we really deserved something new, something different, imho.