Weakest character who can beat Superman for a majority?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Again you seem to not understand comic book basics. BFR is a win. Every fight does not need to be a slug-fest to the death. When Juggernaut and WWH faced each other and Hulk couldn't beat him physically he removed him from the battlefield. Do you not consider this a win? It's a W because its a viable tactic and shows that you have the incredible ability to simply remove the threat from the field ON YOUR OWN TERMS. Also you have quite a few immortal characters , super regen characters (Hulk), evolving characters (HP DD) that cant be defeated any other way than removing them. You yourself often create threads removing bfr because you don't want your pet characters to lose. Also until a character does something that proves they aren't all hype then they are all hype...we go by feats here not conjecture

Terrible analogy. Bob was powerless, Clark was not.

Same panel he admits he couldnt beat Sentry PHYSICALLY but then under the same breath you try to use a PHYSICAL SHOWING of Bill's holding Sentry by the neck as a downplay when again BILLS ADMITTED HE CAN NOT BEAT SENTRY IN A PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION. So yes, Bill bfring an opponent he could not beat is understanding but you using a PHYSICAL showing even though we saw how that PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION went between the two already, makes your point moot. Try again.

Please stop randomly CAPATLIZING things, it scares me.

Ok, so at this point, you can just hold up both hands and thats about how many people can go feat for feat with Superman in all of comicdoom. That's just the reality of it. That is also why I personally think he is such a bad character and It feel like if he hasn't dropped multiple universal level beings in under a femtosecond then he is jobbing and it's PIS, which in my opinion makes for bad storytelling.

And before y'all crucify me and say " I just don't think you have read many Superman comics" actually, we have this thing called the character ownage thread where I've gotten to read damn near all of his appearances for years so don't get all butthurt. Its just an opinion. I respect his power, just not him.

And it's hilarious watching people call Carver biased when they are obviously heavily biased towards DC and always shit on Marvel characters all the time. Is he biased? Shit yeah he is, but so are a lot of you so it's kinda hypocritical.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Ok, so at this point, you can just hold up both hands and thats about how many people can go feat for feat with Superman in all of comicdoom. That's just the reality of it. That is also why I personally think he is such a bad character and It feel like if he hasn't dropped multiple universal level beings in under a femtosecond then he is jobbing and it's PIS, which in my opinion makes for bad storytelling.

And before y'all crucify me and say " I just don't think you have read many Superman comics" actually, we have this thing called the character ownage thread where I've gotten to read damn near all of his appearances for years so don't get all butthurt. Its just an opinion. I respect his power, just not him.

And it's hilarious watching people call Carver biased when they are obviously heavily biased towards DC and always shit on Marvel characters all the time. Is he biased? Shit yeah he is, but so are a lot of you so it's kinda hypocritical.

As much as I might disagree with the idea of disliking someone because of their power level, everyone's entitled to their own reasons. So, fair enough I guess.

The ownage thread by it's very definition is about feats more than story though. Large parts of lots of the comics don't get uploaded.

Originally posted by carver9
Same panel he admits he couldnt beat Sentry PHYSICALLY but then under the same breath you try to use a PHYSICAL SHOWING of Bill's holding Sentry by the neck as a downplay when again BILLS ADMITTED HE CAN NOT BEAT SENTRY IN A PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION. So yes, Bill bfring an opponent he could not beat is understanding but you using a PHYSICAL showing even though we saw how that PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION went between the two already, makes your point moot. Try again.

Once again...Did Bill use stormbreaker to bfr Void? Yes. Is that considered a forum win? Yes. Did Bill get his ass beat in the process? Yes. So even if it's a tech win, is it still considered a win? Yes. Did it take a bunch of heavy hitters to restrain Void? Yes, Carol, Bill, Kallark, Darkhawk (lol), etc... What does all this mean? Nothing. Because even though Void managed to tear a hole into a dimension he still failed to breach Sue's shield. Even though he kicked Bills teeth in he still got punked by mjolnir-lite. Even though it took 6 people to hold him he still got man-handled by one. But let's move on

Back on topic

In regards to Superman I actually agree with you. I think there are some characters that can beat him. Not because of the meta stuff DDC put out but because simply he reminds me Rocky. He gets knocked down and he gets back up and even though he may he can be beaten, ultimately he will win. But like Rock he can lose. My two cents

Yes, let's move on because your post didnt make one bit of sense.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Ok, so at this point, you can just hold up both hands and thats about how many people can go feat for feat with Superman in all of comicdoom. That's just the reality of it. That is also why I personally think he is such a bad character and It feel like if he hasn't dropped multiple universal level beings in under a femtosecond then he is jobbing and it's PIS, which in my opinion makes for bad storytelling.

And before y'all crucify me and say " I just don't think you have read many Superman comics" actually, we have this thing called the character ownage thread where I've gotten to read damn near all of his appearances for years so don't get all butthurt. Its just an opinion. I respect his power, just not him.

And it's hilarious watching people call Carver biased when they are obviously heavily biased towards DC and always shit on Marvel characters all the time. Is he biased? Shit yeah he is, but so are a lot of you so it's kinda hypocritical.

As a christmas present, I'm taking you off ignore to beat that ass a bit. Merry Christmas juicy :*

Originally posted by carver9
He said Superman have beaten them IN COMICS. So I want him to post it. Sigh.

Lol... it's ok if you think Superman could pull a majority against Cyborg. The only reason i said split is due to Superman saying him and Cyborg are physical equals.

It's not an opinion that Superman would beat Cyborg Superman - he repeatedly has done so. There is no such thing as "Rebirth Cyborg" -- he's the same Cyborg since his inception in Reign of Supermen. Cyborg and him aren't physical equals, anymore than everybody who's hitting Superman is 'the hardest he's ever been hit' - Superman gives carvy lips service the same way you switch phones -- whenever he feels like it.

Never depicted Superman as a liar. Guess this means we cant trust anything he say. If Superman is a liar, I feel confident the characters around him are liars as well which makes a lot of things questionable. To bad I dont depict Superman as a bold face liar and usually take his word for things. With that said, since he did say him and Cyborg are physical equals, I'll believe him. Lol and yes, he will beat Cyborg Superman, hes suppose to. Crazy thing is, I cant find a single showing of him/Rebirth Superman beating Zod though. Maybe he doesnt have the carver9 lips to do it.

Originally posted by carver9
Never depicted Superman as a liar. Guess this means we cant trust anything he say. If Superman is a liar, I feel confident the characters around him are liars as well which makes a lot of things questionable. To bad I dont depict Superman as a bold face liar and usually take his word for things.

Originally posted by carver9
With that said, since he did say him and Cyborg are physical equals, I'll believe him. Lol and yes, he will beat Cyborg Superman, hes suppose to. Crazy thing is, I cant find a single showing of him/Rebirth Superman beating Zod though. Maybe he doesnt have the carver9 lips to do it.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... it's ok if you think Superman could pull a majority against Cyborg. The only reason i said split is due to Superman saying him and Cyborg are physical equals.

Superman has easily speedblitzed and overpowered Cyborg Superman before:

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Get down on your knees and beg for forgiveness.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Ok, so at this point, you can just hold up both hands and thats about how many people can go feat for feat with Superman in all of comicdoom. That's just the reality of it. That is also why I personally think he is such a bad character and It feel like if he hasn't dropped multiple universal level beings in under a femtosecond then he is jobbing and it's PIS, which in my opinion makes for bad storytelling.

And before y'all crucify me and say " I just don't think you have read many Superman comics" actually, we have this thing called the character ownage thread where I've gotten to read damn near all of his appearances for years so don't get all butthurt. Its just an opinion. I respect his power, just not him.

And it's hilarious watching people call Carver biased when they are obviously heavily biased towards DC and always shit on Marvel characters all the time. Is he biased? Shit yeah he is, but so are a lot of you so it's kinda hypocritical.

so you never actually read a superman's comic in your life. My suggestion is to read a comic bro

Good call because Shadow hasn’t actually👆

He’s only watched movies with Superman😂

It's pointless responding to your post Philo. RECENTLY Superman admitted he needed to end a weakened Henshaw quick before he got his power back. W.e.a.k.e.n.e.d... and afterwards admitted that Henshaw is as fast and as strong as him. His statement seems pretty clear.

Originally posted by carver9
It's pointless responding to your post Philo. RECENTLY Superman admitted he needed to end a weakened Henshaw quick before he got his power back. W.e.a.k.e.n.e.d... and afterwards admitted that Henshaw is as fast and as strong as him. His statement seems pretty clear.

Your position in this thread is that it's a split. That position is wrong, based on actual evidence.

Don't make me get the whip.

On your knees and apologize.

razor ramon superman is the rao of krypton

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
This must be the dumbest argument I've read today. Lol at knowing a character solely because you've seen scans from them in the OT.

I haven't just seen scans from the ot, Superman and Spiderman were my heroes as a child. When DOS came out and he "died" I was ****ing horrified because as a kid I actually thought they were going to stop making Superman comics.

But I did just realize something as I am responding to this.. , I've never really disliked him or really any character until I started coming here and reading on comicvine. It's the superfans that have given m a strong dislike for him. The overwanking and always trying to hammer it into everybodies head how powerful he is.

Also, a common theme here is if you don't like Superman you have never read his comics. That's such a closeminded and ignorant way of thinking. Just because someone doesn't like what you like they know nothing about it?

And yes,I know Marvel fans do the same shit and I will call them out as well. It works both ways.

Carver bro, you are a great dude, but quit saying your not biased man. You absolutely are and it is entirely ok to be biased towards something, that is natural and perfectly ok, it's not ok when it clouds your judgement. Non-holding back Superman could steamroll multiple people on that list at the same time and he has already beaten a lot of them already. He is to a herald level character what a herald is to a street.

I've admitted I'm bias though. I love my Hulk, Thor, Gladiator, Surfer and Wolverine. I hate Thanos, dislike Superman, and cant stand Flash and think the Lanterns are overrated.

White Lanterns are not over rated. Neither is Ion. The rest are meh.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I haven't just seen scans from the ot, Superman and Spiderman were my heroes as a child. When DOS came out and he "died" I was ****ing horrified because as a kid I actually thought they were going to stop making Superman comics.

But I did just realize something as I am responding to this.. , I've never really disliked him or really any character until I started coming here and reading on comicvine. It's the superfans that have given m a strong dislike for him. The overwanking and always trying to hammer it into everybodies head how powerful he is.

Also, a common theme here is if you don't like Superman you have never read his comics. That's such a closeminded and ignorant way of thinking. Just because someone doesn't like what you like they know nothing about it?

And yes,I know Marvel fans do the same shit and I will call them out as well. It works both ways.

Carver bro, you are a great dude, but quit saying your not biased man. You absolutely are and it is entirely ok to be biased towards something, that is natural and perfectly ok, it's not ok when it clouds your judgement. Non-holding back Superman could steamroll multiple people on that list at the same time and he has already beaten a lot of them already. He is to a herald level character what a herald is to a street.

There's zero change shadowfire was born when DoS came out.