Originally posted by JBL
Come to my house and watch me feed my rattlesnake. Watch him strike a rat. You can see him strike the rat, now I want you to put your hand 1 foot from his head and we all will see if you can dodge him. Then go get a mongoose and watch him dodge a cobra, now bring that same mongoose and let him take on my rattler and watch my rattler kill it in one strike.
except in this case I would have to have 10–24 of a second--yoctosecond perception
and your snake would have to move at least trillions times speed of light
for this to make tiny bit of sense
if your snake is only moving 10 miles per hour, and I am in perception of yoctosecond
I would be literally watching my hand 1 foot in front of your snake for eternity, from my own perception it would be more than 100 years, while going full retard not moving my hand the fuk out of the way.
Originally posted by JBL
Come to my house and watch me feed my rattlesnake. Watch him strike a rat. You can see him strike the rat, now I want you to put your hand 1 foot from his head and we all will see if you can dodge him. Then go get a mongoose and watch him dodge a cobra, now bring that same mongoose and let him take on my rattler and watch my rattler kill it in one strike.
Aren't there people who can actually do this?
Originally posted by Dareangel
yes, its that one. and you are right, i missed that depower thing that went thru further. with ultraman he regained his powers and could fly already and use his powers. as we see with the 1 million arc and overall the JLA 1 million appearances, it is always stated when they are depowered and when they gain their powers back. the fight vs ultraman was after they regained their powers and we see kal kent using his powers and nothing is stated about him not being at full power yet. so i do believe ultraman one shotting him is legit at his full power already. but thanks for doing the research with me and putting some light on this subject.
👆 at least you acknowledge when you're wrong, and actually give credit where it's due.
Guess Albert looks silly now for jumping on the bandwagon lol.
That's what I'm saying.
And Kal even says, now that the dome is down, our powers are returNING, not returnED. I'd wager it was Brainiac's doing.
So sure, he's getting his powers back - but it wouldn't be at 100%, because there's no super sun. As confirmed later in the next issue.
So timeline is:
1. Dome goes up, powerlevels: 0%
2. Fights Batman1M, power levels: 0%
3. Dome goes down, powerlevels: somewhere above 0%, but below 100%
4. Ultraman blindsided him, power levels waning, so less than in step 3, but still above 0%.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
tracking isn't combat speed neither
I could had sworn I explained this already
It's not even physical speed in this case. It's totally visual. It's no more physical that this.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
It's not even physical speed in this case. It's totally visual. It's no more physical that this.
Tracking is different from perception.
Moreover, if Gladiator did that in nanoseconds, that's a speed feat, especially for reflexes.
Originally posted by TheHulksterbro you didn’t even understand the scan, your argument changed after I explained it to you but you still don’t understand that feat.
It's not even physical speed in this case. It's totally visual. It's no more physical that this.
Lol Hulkster, Carver and Albert were all so eager to jump on Hulkster's back lmao.
Anyway, Kal was tracking Kosmos in yoctoseconds. Tracking = following, as per general definitions.
He tracked them with his eyes, using his 5D vision. The 5D vision isn't relevant to the point, nor is Kosmos' speed, none of it is relevant.
The ONLY relevant thing, is that Kal is able to track (I.e follow with his eyes, i.e perform an action) in extremely short timeframes (yoctoseconds).
Want to argue his limb speed (lol) isn't up to it? We can debate that or for the sale of brevity just say that Kal has powers and abilities that don't require moving his limbs (telepathy that can mindwipe/mind control, or TK that can contribute to stopping a charging galaxy).
If he can track something within yoctoseconds, he can use his TK in that timeframe. Or TP.
That's assuming we don't argue a punch or whatever.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol Hulkster, Carver and Albert were all so eager to jump on Hulkster's back lmao.Anyway, Kal was tracking Kosmos in yoctoseconds. Tracking = following, as per general definitions.
He tracked them with his eyes, using his 5D vision. The 5D vision isn't relevant to the point, nor is Kosmos' speed, none of it is relevant.
The ONLY relevant thing, is that Kal is able to track (I.e follow with his eyes, i.e perform an action) in extremely short timeframes (yoctoseconds).
Want to argue his limb speed (lol) isn't up to it? We can debate that or for the sale of brevity just say that Kal has powers and abilities that don't require moving his limbs (telepathy that can mindwipe/mind control, or TK that can contribute to stopping a charging galaxy).
If he can track something within yoctoseconds, he can use his TK in that timeframe. Or TP.
That's assuming we don't argue a punch or whatever.
Agreed, as you just explained, perception to combat speed comparison is irrelevant to this thread not sure why they keep bringing it up.. nvm we know exactly why.
Originally posted by Diesldude
bro you didn’t even understand the scan, your argument changed after I explained it to you but you still don’t understand that feat.
Anything I changed was based off of finding the book and reading, not off of anyone's explaination. So what are you claiming that I don't understand?
Anyhow, OKT holds creation together. He stomps Kal.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Ok. Looking at it again, he does not actually track any particular speed movement. King Kosmos escapes him by going through a wormhole to the past. Using his S-D Vision, it takes Kal only nanoseconds to track Kosmos’ location and he goes to that location, surmising that minutes could have passed wherever King Kosmos went (apparently far more time than that had passed).Even more so, this has absolutely nothing to do with combat or reflex speed.
Well for a start, you misread 'yoctoseconds' as 'nanoseconds'. A fairly massive magnitude difference there.
Then, actually, you're right on point. He's not tracking any real speed from Kosmos - as my point has always been, it's NOTHING to do with the SPEED of the object being tracked, but the TIME taken by the tracker to do so. Kosmos could have been travelling at 5mph, or crawling on all fours at 1mph, or zooming at FTL speeds - doesn't matter.
The important thing is that it only took Kal yoctoseconds to track him.