Kal Kent vs Thor and OKT

Originally posted by TheHulkster
OKT is able to perceived and follow Gorr moving at speeds that allow him to cover light years in moments. So that similarly equates combat speed and therefore he matches or even surpasses Kal's speed.

https://m.imgur.com/a/BJlCNZ2

So where do you get that I am in agreement that Kal stomps? Where did I express that? Can you see how your MO is to misrepresent what people say in a way whereas you put words in their mouths? Does this not give you reason why I don't respond to your attempts at "gotcha questions"?

Erm...you mean MJOLNIR can follow at those speeds.

And even then....no, it's not matches/surpassing yoctoseconds, unless you can prove it.

Well I haven't seen anything that matches or surpasses Kal's feat. Even IF you allow that OKT is the one following, there is no timeframe for him - it's GORR who travels light-years in moments.

If I hit a baseball at 70mph, then run after where it landed....are you seriously suggesting my reflexes move at that speed?

If I shoot a bullet from a gun, then chase after it after it hits a target....you are saying I have bullet time reflexes? Help me understand so I don't misrepresent you.

OKT smashed Gorr so hard he flew light years away in moments. I shoot a bullet so quickly it travels 1000feet in a second. Then Thor follows up, just like me then running over to the target.

Doesn't mean my reactions are that quick.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Surfer's faster than Superman

Originally posted by MrMind
lol kal was using force vision to temp stop galaxy coming at him in super speed, but okt who was only hauling stars around has more raw power,

😂 ok thorbag

not to mention Kal has magic immunity too, this thread is gold

and yes magic immunity means he is immune to OKT's attacks

remember how prime shrugs off black adam and mordru?

that's exactly what's happening here

Can u ever have a normal conversation without popping a blood vessel?

If u have things to say just go ahead and post it instead of always having to resort to adhominems. I can call u a superfahg all day, but what does that get me?

Magic immunity doesnt give him an automatic pass on damage.

And his power showings speak for themselves.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm...you mean MJOLNIR can follow at those speeds.

And even then....no, it's not matches/surpassing yoctoseconds, unless you can prove it.

Well I haven't seen anything that matches or surpasses Kal's feat. Even IF you allow that OKT is the one following, there is no timeframe for him - it's GORR who travels light-years in moments.

If I hit a baseball at 70mph, then run after where it landed....are you seriously suggesting my reflexes move at that speed?

If I shoot a bullet from a gun, then chase after it after it hits a target....you are saying I have bullet time reflexes? Help me understand so I don't misrepresent you.

OKT smashed Gorr so hard he flew light years away in moments. I shoot a bullet so quickly it travels 1000feet in a second. Then Thor follows up, just like me then running over to the target.

Doesn't mean my reactions are that quick.

What Kal did wasn't combat speed, it was perception. They're not remotely the same

FOR EXAMPLE, In the recent dragonball manga, Jaco, a barely planet lvl side character could see Goku moving in ultra instinct, despite the much stronger characters I the area, gohan and piccolo, couldn't see goku moving in ultra instinct (in said issue Gohan and piccolo nearly destroyed earth with casual ki blasts). This was possible because Jaco had high COMBAT PERCEPTION than goku had COMBAT SPEED.
In the same issue the same goku moving I ultra instinct was moving faster than what the other fighters could see, thats because his COMBAT SPEED is higher than their combat perception.

Originally posted by Diesldude
revealed his agenda. 😂

it's funny he was spasming for 5 pages straight about surfer's mediocre feat. then he made a calculation, he was so proud of it.

then on page 5, once the mic drops for superman's feat, he was instantly annihilated. he hasn't look right ever since

poor old man got his dream completely shattered

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Erm...you mean MJOLNIR can follow at those speeds.

And even then....no, it's not matches/surpassing yoctoseconds, unless you can prove it.

Well I haven't seen anything that matches or surpasses Kal's feat. Even IF you allow that OKT is the one following, there is no timeframe for him - it's GORR who travels light-years in moments.

If I hit a baseball at 70mph, then run after where it landed....are you seriously suggesting my reflexes move at that speed?

If I shoot a bullet from a gun, then chase after it after it hits a target....you are saying I have bullet time reflexes? Help me understand so I don't misrepresent you.

OKT smashed Gorr so hard he flew light years away in moments. I shoot a bullet so quickly it travels 1000feet in a second. Then Thor follows up, just like me then running over to the target.

Doesn't mean my reactions are that quick.

Mjolnir doesn't fly by itself. It is steered by he who is wielding it. Yoctoseconds is not a speed, it's a measure of time. Now you stated that multiple light years doesn't compare to yoctoseconds. That's an assertion you are making, so go ahead and prove it.

Now consider that it says light-years (plural). And he travels this in mere moments. I'll be generous and say that he travels for a minute and only travels two light years away. That means that he travels more than a million times the speed of light.

Now the assertion you make with your analogies applies to Kal. Tracking speed does not equate to maneuvering speed. And your analogies are bad. For one, Gorr is not aimed at any target. He is blasted backward indiscriminately. A better analogy is if you simply fire a gun in an open field. You have no idea where the bullet ends up. A baseball leaves a bat at about 110 miles per hour and the average punch travels around 20 miles per hour. So based on your baseball analogy, Thor can throw a punch at 182,000 times the speed of light.

Lastly, I doubt that the Thors wait for Gorr to stop moving and they view him stop multiple light years away (that's some hell of some supervision) before they take off. It appears more that they are trailing behind him and doing so at a million times the speed of light takes some serious perception and therefore some serious light speed plus reflexes.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This one, right?

Yeah, Supes is powerless here. Which is why I keep asking - there is always a chance I missed something myself.

yes, its that one. and you are right, i missed that depower thing that went thru further. with ultraman he regained his powers and could fly already and use his powers. as we see with the 1 million arc and overall the JLA 1 million appearances, it is always stated when they are depowered and when they gain their powers back. the fight vs ultraman was after they regained their powers and we see kal kent using his powers and nothing is stated about him not being at full power yet. so i do believe ultraman one shotting him is legit at his full power already. but thanks for doing the research with me and putting some light on this subject.

Light years is a measure of distance.

I have yet to decipher what 1 'mere moments' equates to, though. 🤔

Please dear God don't tell me that people are trying to relate perception speed with combat speed.

Originally posted by JBL
Please dear God don't tell me that people are trying to relate perception speed with combat speed.

Galan and others are, yes.

Do any of you jbl Alberto of the world wanna actually make a case on combat speed and perception speed is unrelated?

Come to my house and watch me feed my rattlesnake. Watch him strike a rat. You can see him strike the rat, now I want you to put your hand 1 foot from his head and we all will see if you can dodge him. Then go get a mongoose and watch him dodge a cobra, now bring that same mongoose and let him take on my rattler and watch my rattler kill it in one strike.

Why do your parents allow you to fool around with dangerous animals in their basement?

Jbl is Joe Exotic's secret lover

Originally posted by JBL
Come to my house and watch me feed my rattlesnake. Watch him strike a rat. You can see him strike the rat, now I want you to put your hand 1 foot from his head and we all will see if you can dodge him. Then go get a mongoose and watch him dodge a cobra, now bring that same mongoose and let him take on my rattler and watch my rattler kill it in one strike.

I'm not telepathic or telekinetic though.

Edit: nor am I capable of tracking your snake in nanoseconds or anything like that. It's nothing to do with the speed of the object I am tracking (which people are still getting confused about).

It's all about how quickly I can achieve the task.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Mjolnir doesn't fly by itself. It is steered by he who is wielding it. Yoctoseconds is not a speed, it's a measure of time. Now you stated that multiple light years doesn't compare to yoctoseconds. That's an assertion you are making, so go ahead and prove it.

Now consider that it says light-years (plural). And he travels this in mere moments. I'll be generous and say that he travels for a minute and only travels two light years away. That means that he travels more than a million times the speed of light.

Now the assertion you make with your analogies applies to Kal.

Tracking speed does not equate to maneuvering speed. And your analogies are bad. For one, Gorr is not aimed at any target. He is blasted backward indiscriminately. A better analogy is if you simply fire a gun in an open field. You have no idea where the bullet ends up. A baseball leaves a bat at about 110 miles per hour and the average punch travels around 20 miles per hour. So based on your baseball analogy, Thor can throw a punch at 182,000 times the speed of light.

Lastly, I doubt that the Thors wait for Gorr to stop moving and they view him stop multiple light years away (that's some hell of some supervision) before they take off. It appears more that they are trailing behind him and doing so at a million times the speed of light takes some serious perception and therefore some serious light speed plus reflexes.

Thor actually DOES have supervision. And Mjolnir can track even across dimensions.

But again, your example is a completely different kettle of fish. I fire a gun, I can see where it lands, plus I have a metal detector or kit that tells me where it lands (ignoring the point that I may even have aimed the bullet exactly where I wanted it to land).

Doesn't mean I'm on par with my friend who can perform actions in nanoseconds. They're two different arguments.

I own my own house and business. My mother is a lawyer and doing quite well and my dad is retired from the family business that I now run. But back on topic. Perception speed is not Combat speed.

Originally posted by JBL
I own my own house and business. My mother is a lawyer and doing quite well and my dad is retired from the family business that I now run. But back on topic.

Perception speed is not Combat speed.

I'm not telepathic/telekinetic, and neither is that mongoose. Kal Kent is, however.

And perception is not tracking. Perceiving the presence of a snake does not mean I am able to track it attacking me.

Moreover, if I can track a snake in nanoseconds, then yeah, I've just performed an action (tracking) over a short timeframe, which can be applied to any other action, ESPECIALLY mental actions.

Originally posted by JBL
I own my own house and business. My mother is a lawyer and doing quite well and my dad is retired from the family business that I now run. But back on topic. Perception speed is not Combat speed.

Originally posted by JBL
Classis response from a loser on the internet. My mother is Dead by the way.

...are you alright man?....

Here is by the way the Justice/doomwars battle between all good guys and lex luthor and his army. at 20 seconds you can see that kal kent is flying into battle. we dont see him fight but it is said that they are losing. again, if he was that powerful as people claim he is, he would be able to blitz this entire battlefield all by himself. as i said he is just another version of superman with some extra powers here and there that dont make much of a difference on the battlefield.
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