I'd still be inclined to back Thor in general, due to the durability advantage and that, unlike Thanos, he has ranged attacks of his own. But I am also wondering whether Wanda could damage either Mjolnir or Stormbreaker, considering what she did to Thanos' sword, which was implied to be of the same material during an interview IIRC.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I'd still be inclined to back Thor in general, due to the durability advantage and that, unlike Thanos, he has ranged attacks of his own. But I am also wondering whether Wanda could damage either Mjolnir or Stormbreaker, considering what she did to Thanos' sword, which was implied to be of the same material during an interview IIRC.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah but Thanos' sword isn't magical like Mjolnir or Stormbreaker.
True, but Wanda's powers are also hax Infinity Stone fueled magic. Feige has outright stated the main difference between what she does and regular Earth sorcerers do is she goes via instinct whereas they operate via learned and controlled techniques and spells, and we're likely delving deeper into all this in Dr Strange 2. So, being magical isn't necessarily a counter either. And I am not even saying she could do it. Just speculating a bit.
On a somewhat related note, it seems clear the current push by the MCU execs are that Wanda and Carol are the top dogs right now. Which I suppose does make sense, considering how they were empowered as well as the current state of many of the OG Avengers and co. But it does make me extra annoyed we never got to see Pietro develop to his full potential, though I can see the potential of a super hard-hitting, super durable guy, who could potentially impale Thanos with his own weapon before he even knew what's up, being around for too long being a narrative issue. They'd have to strap a Flash-helmet to him 90% of the time or he'd solo a lot of scenarios.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I'd still be inclined to back Thor in general, due to the durability advantage and that, unlike Thanos, he has ranged attacks of his own. But I am also wondering whether Wanda could damage either Mjolnir or Stormbreaker, considering what she did to Thanos' sword, which was implied to be of the same material during an interview IIRC.
Wanda > Thanos' sword > Cap's shield
It's a good bet that she could crush Mjolnir. Luckily, he doesn't need it to fry her with lightning.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Wanda > Thanos' sword > Cap's shieldIt's a good bet that she could crush Mjolnir. Luckily, he doesn't need it to fry her with lightning.
Well, I was thinking in terms of AoU Thor and Mjolnir for the most part, because that's before he'd properly unlocked his lightning abilities. But yeah, any version after that could zap her while stationary. Even Fat Thor used lightning a few times in Endgame (the combo attack with Tony and a lightning burst when the two armies initially met, to name some examples). Granted, he was armed when he did those, but I sincerely doubt he's gotten so bad in those five years that he can't summon at least one decent lightning strike without his weapons. But even AoU Thor just needs one good connection to win.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Your comparing small arms fire to Thor's lightning?
Seriously, dude? I literally have said twice now that I back Thor and that he could take her out with a single decent lightning strike. I was responding to Psychotron's post regarding an actual gun and literally quoted him while doing so. You're strawmanning me now for absolutely no reason.
What's more, a gun or cannon or other projectile weapon can actually be telekinetically torn from his grip, unlike inherent powers.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
True, but Wanda's powers are also hax Infinity Stone fueled magic. Feige has outright stated the main difference between what she does and regular Earth sorcerers do is she goes via instinct whereas they operate via learned and controlled techniques and spells, and we're likely delving deeper into all this in Dr Strange 2. So, being magical isn't necessarily a counter either. And I am not even saying she could do it. Just speculating a bit.On a somewhat related note, it seems clear the current push by the MCU execs are that Wanda and Carol are the top dogs right now. Which I suppose does make sense, considering how they were empowered as well as the current state of many of the OG Avengers and co. But it does make me extra annoyed we never got to see Pietro develop to his full potential, though I can see the potential of a super hard-hitting, super durable guy, who could potentially impale Thanos with his own weapon before he even knew what's up, being around for too long being a narrative issue. They'd have to strap a Flash-helmet to him 90% of the time or he'd solo a lot of scenarios.
Nah, I don't consider her powers hax. Her TK powers are pretty specific, regardless of where it came from, and we have enough feats from movies to determine the limits of what she can do at the moment.
Just because Thanos' sword might be made of Uru doesn't mean it was made the same way as Mjolnir. Doesn't mean it was made with the same level of craftmanship. And a warhammer is way harder to destroy than a sword blade.
What I'm saying is, 2 objects can be made of similar material yet be completely different durability wise. So Wanda cracking Thanos' sword is not proof that she can wreck Mjolnir.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Nah, I don't consider her powers hax. Her TK powers are pretty specific, regardless of where it came from, and we have enough feats from movies to determine the limits of what she can do at the moment.Just because Thanos' sword might be made of Uru doesn't mean it was made the same way as Mjolnir. Doesn't mean it was made with the same level of craftmanship. And a warhammer is way harder to destroy than a sword blade.
What I'm saying is, 2 objects can be made of similar material yet be completely different durability wise. So Wanda cracking Thanos' sword is not proof that she can wreck Mjolnir.
While you might not consider it hax, Feige himself has said it's essentially extra-dimensional energy manipulation (like Dr Strange and co do) that she just happens to manifest that way due to her lack of experience. And yes, we know what she can do, which includes destroying things as rare and powerful as Infinity Stones. And at no point did I say she can "wreck" Mjolnir. In fact, I never made any definitive statements in that regard. I simply wondered, given her higher end feats, whether she could damage either weapon if presented with the opportunity.