Coronavirus

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Originally posted by cdtm
I'm going by what Capitalists themselves have admitted. Their operations are tuned for profit margins, not to meet a crisis. And they aren't about to overhaul their entire systems for something that may pass within a year.

Meeting the needs of Americans in a crisis is not their concern.

Pretty sure that no capitalist has ever claimed that capitalism cures all problems so that is a strawman argument.

lulz @starfly lecturing on logical fallacies dur

^loser.

Regardless of whether you like capitalism or not, I think most of us can agree that a few companies being able to vastly increase prices on limited, but extremely needed products in a crisis, is not ideal...right?

So a top NYC official whose mother died of the virus is blaming Trump.

See this is the TDS. It's not up for debate. No blame placed on DeBlasio, just orange man bad. Pathetic. I get he is grieving, but then he shouldn't have been put in front of the cameras by a major media outlet to spew this garbage.

Originally posted by Surtur
So a top NYC official whose mother died of the virus is blaming Trump.

See this is the TDS. It's not up for debate. No blame placed on DeBlasio, just orange man bad. Pathetic. I get he is grieving, but then he shouldn't have been put in front of the cameras by a major media outlet to spew this garbage.

Trumps inability to act and not taking this seriously needs to be thrown his way. The man is a moron.

And DeBlasio encouraging people to go out even after the virus already had come to his city need not be mentioned.

Giggle.

In Cuomo's briefing today, he said they are going to order more of the hydroxychloroquine because it has been so effective.

He also said it would take a month or two to publish research results. But I disagree. It doesn't take that long to complete full clinical research when the results, control groups, placebo, and nocebo (unlikely they'll use something like this) groups are easy to find. It's simply assembling the data and creating a write-up. A team of grad-student researchers could assemble the data and have it ready to publish in 2-3 days, tops.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Here is a great site about projections:

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

Running my numbers against theirs will be great.

They are projecting 2600+ deaths on April 16th and April 16th is supposed to be the apex.

They also predict that by May 1st, we will have 68,000 total deaths.

My predictions are:

1. We will hover are around 1,100 daily deaths for several days and slowly drop with an average margin of +-300.

2. By May 1st, we will have 20,000 to 25,000 deaths. That's because my model predicts daily death rates from .85 to 1.1 and theirs is much more aggressive. I also suggested we hit near population saturation before the lockdowns got crazy 2-3 weeks ago. If the lockdowns were effective, we would have seen significant drops in the last 6 days, now, but we haven't.

Let's see who's right. Obviously, all of us would hope in me being correct because that means we hit way more less dead. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, however.

Feel free to mess around with a free online tool (but mine is my own in Excel):

https://gabgoh.github.io/COVID/index.html

Update:
Today's deaths are 1,255. My #1 prediction still holds true. NY shows signs of flattening. Daily new cases is also still less than 2 days ago.

Hope these predictions still hold true.

Also, that site also halved their number of beds needed, which is interesting. They could have done that days ago but maintained their overly inflated numbers. Why?

Good News citation:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/discharges-outpace-hospitalizations-in-new-york-for-4th-straight-day_3299082.html#

Originally posted by dadudemon
In Cuomo's briefing today, he said they are going to order more of the hydroxychloroquine because it has been so effective.

He also said it would take a month or two to publish research results. But I disagree. It doesn't take that long to complete full clinical research when the results, control groups, placebo, and nocebo (unlikely they'll use something like this) groups are easy to find. It's simply assembling the data and creating a write-up. A team of grad-student researchers could assemble the data and have it ready to publish in 2-3 days, tops.

Lol so now is the time for this:

Originally posted by dadudemon
Good News citation:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/discharges-outpace-hospitalizations-in-new-york-for-4th-straight-day_3299082.html#

I mean that's good, and I assume the data could be right, but I'm a bit suspicious of a news source that called it the "Chinese Communist Party (CCP) Virus" ...

Originally posted by Artol
I mean that's good, and I assume the data could be right, but I'm a bit suspicious of a news source that called it the "Chinese Communist Party (CCP) Virus" ...

This sounds like something the babylon bee would tweet

What did the Netherlands do to her and why does she wanna trigger an invasion of it? Seems wrong and short sighted.

Originally posted by Surtur

I hate seeing capn kirk because Robtard.

(CNN)An influential model tracking the coronavirus pandemic in the United States now predicts that fewer people will die and fewer hospital beds will be needed compared to its estimates from last week.

As of Monday, the model predicted the virus will kill 81,766 people in the United States over the next four months, with just under 141,000 hospital beds being needed. That's about 12,000 fewer deaths -- and 121,000 fewer hospital beds -- than the model estimated on Thursday.

A "massive infusion of new data" led to the adjustments, according to the model's maker, Dr. Christopher Murray, who serves as director of the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington School of Medicine.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/health/ihme-updated-covid19-model/index.html

Originally posted by Blakemore
I hate seeing capn kirk because Robtard.

Trump's new coronavirus argument: 2 million people are being saved

Don't focus on the 200,000 people the coronavirus might kill in the U.S., think about the 2 million people President Donald Trump is saving.

Even as Trump adopts a somber, get-ready-for-the-worst tone, he still has sought to portray himself as a hero for his actions thus far, batting away questions about whether he has adequately responded to the coronavirus outbreak. -snip

Seems social distancing and the closures are helping.

Trump tried to take credit for it by saying we would have had "millions" of deaths if it wasn't for his quick and decisive actions.

Should be noted that Trump lied, downplayed and gaslite for months before declaring a national emergency over covid-19.