Coronavirus

Originally posted by Artol
I mainly blame the United States' political system, the partisanship that has developed since the 90s (which I blame mostly on Republicans) and the ideological marriage of politics (of both parties) to a specific form of unleashed capitalism that is fundamentally anti-human.

We are doing better than multiple other countries including countries with factually batter healthcare systems (a majority of the countries ahead of us):

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

We could have done much better (which was my point) had we not followed very terrible policies.

Originally posted by meep-meep
That's the way it is in the U.S. it's been divide and conquer since well forever. We're the bastard child of the British royalty.

Artol has a point about politics, lately.

Let me see if I can find the animated gif that shows how polarized we've gotten since the information age explosion.

This is the senate voting and relationships/sponsorings on legislation by year:

The more lines, the more connections and "cross-party-voting" there is:

Just look at it...look at how terrible partisanship has gotten. It's literally the fault of the media weaponizing social media and the saturation of the internet+information in the American people.

Don't see how he can blame the Cons, when there are states completely dominated by libs that aren't exactly utopia's.

And even if he means rhetoric wise, the left is every bit as bad as the right. Only instead of crudeness, they roll with emotional manipulation and slander.

YouTube video

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.

So that should end the mask debate, right? All places will stop requiring them, now, right?

Originally posted by dadudemon
YouTube video

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

So that should end the mask debate, right? All places will stop requiring them, now, right?

As far as I know they don't require masks. They require "coverings". That doesn't necessarily mean medical grade masks so no it won't result in a shortage of masks for hospitals.

One of the main purposes of the requirement isn't to stop the virus spread directly but to serve as a visual and tactile reminder to maintain social distancing and do other things that will help prevent the virus spreading.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'd honestly love for any poster here to show proof I was taking pleasure in the deaths with that post. And no, none of this "but the implications" bullshit.

I made no accusations toward you, if you go back and read my post, you'll see a ? at the end. You would normally precede or end something like that with a 'LOL' or a 'Too good', but you didn't, hence my question.

Another question for you Surt; If there were more deaths in Republican controlled states as opposed to Democratic, would you still have posted a link to the article?

Originally posted by samhain
I made no accusations toward you, if you go back and read my post, you'll see a ? at the end. You would normally precede or end something like that with a 'LOL' or a 'Too good', but you didn't, hence my question.

Okay it's true you didn't accuse me of taking pleasure in any deaths but your question just came out of the blue to me. I don't understand why you asked it since I haven't wished this virus on anyone. So it's not like there is a post you can point to where I'm cheering on democrats dying.

I posted it because people here have said Trump has blood on his hands over his handling of the virus. I wanted to see if they'd be consistent. So no, I wouldn't have posted it if it was about Republicans because they've already said they have blood on their hands.

And I've been clear before that I blame China ultimately for any death. It's also true that in the USA both democrat and republican alike were not prepared for this. We could have done better and I hope we learn from this.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay it's true you didn't accuse me of taking pleasure in any deaths but your question just came out of the blue to me. I don't understand why you asked it since I haven't wished this virus on anyone. So it's not like there is a post you can point to where I'm cheering on democrats dying.

I don't recall ever seeing you take pleasure in the deaths of others TBH, you may have, but I don't recall. The posting of articles that make the 'other side' look stupid is rife on this site though.

'Trump has a tiny penis, LOL.'

or

'Biden pissed himself, LMAO.'

So I felt the question was warranted.

Can I ask what relevance do you think those states being Democrat has to do with their apparent higher death rates? Are the increased deaths attributable to them being Democrat controlled? Genuine question as US politics is largely an unknown area for me.

I don't think Republicans would have done much better.

So, Missouri, accused of violating massive amounts of social distancing rules on Memorial day and having a massive water park adventures...

Saw no uptick in new cases despite more testing.

We should see people dying by the hundreds in Missouri in 3-4 more days, based on incubation and "mean time to death" if what the hysterics told us were true.

But based on the lack of new positives, now 4 days later, I highly doubt we still see a massive spike in deaths when the "cycle" hits the stride in a few more days.

Lockdown extended another 30 days here
=/

Originally posted by dadudemon
So, Missouri, accused of violating massive amounts of social distancing rules on Memorial day and having a massive water park adventures...

Saw no uptick in new cases despite more testing.

We should see people dying by the hundreds in Missouri in 3-4 more days, based on incubation and "mean time to death" if what the hysterics told us were true.

But based on the lack of new positives, now 4 days later, I highly doubt we still see a massive spike in deaths when the "cycle" hits the stride in a few more days.

Oh people are done crying about violating lockdown and social distancing didn't you hear? You know..cuz if they were consistent with their tears they'd have to denounce all these protests.

Originally posted by dadudemon
So, Missouri, accused of violating massive amounts of social distancing rules on Memorial day and having a massive water park adventures...

Saw no uptick in new cases despite more testing.

We should see people dying by the hundreds in Missouri in 3-4 more days, based on incubation and "mean time to death" if what the hysterics told us were true.

But based on the lack of new positives, now 4 days later, I highly doubt we still see a massive spike in deaths when the "cycle" hits the stride in a few more days.

Have the numbers dropped in missouri?

Originally posted by truejedi
Have the numbers dropped in missouri?

Which numbers over which period of time?

I'll interpret however: Yes.

Behind a paywall, but surely The Guardian wouldn't lie...

China withheld data on coronavirus from WHO, recordings reveal

15 times Trump praised China as coronavirus was spreading across the globe

The president has lambasted the WHO for accepting Beijing’s assurances about the outbreak, but he repeated them, as well. -snip

Nice deflection.

On top story to the one you posted, kid. Try and deal with it.

Originally posted by Robtard
On top story to the one you posted, kid. Try and deal with it.

Your deflection has been noted. You will deal with that 🙂