So, apparently, 60% of the cases in Ireland can be attributed to a single strain that was first caught by holidaymakers in Spain.
Same goes for almost 80% in the UK, and 40% in Switzerland and France.
****ing travel bans and ****ing quarantining would have spared so many damn people.
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Originally posted by Robtard
PR, glad to hear it's working out better than not.Now some bad news, 237K dead in the US as of now and rising
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Originally posted by -Pr-Had not read that fascinating info. DDM, thoughts? Nope, that's what I thought...
So, apparently, 60% of the cases in Ireland can be attributed to a single strain that was first caught by holidaymakers in Spain.Same goes for almost 80% in the UK, and 40% in Switzerland and France.
****ing travel bans and ****ing quarantining would have spared so many damn people.
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Spain Strain showed up in mid-June. Lockdowns were in place and travel was not possible.
4-6 weeks later after the travel bans were lifted, British travelers brought back COVID-19 Spain Strain to the UK.
So, again, lockdowns and border closures don't work, as can clearly be seen.
https://www.newstalk.com/news/coronavirus-60-irish-cases-traced-one-strain-spain-1099162
Wait a minute...didn't I already post the relevant science to this that lockdowns and border closures don't work? Awww shucks, you guys!
Unless, of course, you want to close all countries and all borders for about 2 years, you might stop the spread of the virus. But you'd have a mountain of dead bodies that vastly eclipses the COVID-19 deaths.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Spain Strain showed up in mid-June. Lockdowns were in place and travel was not possible.4-6 weeks later after the travel bans were lifted, British travelers brought back COVID-19 Spain Strain to the UK.
So, again, lockdowns and border closures don't work, as can clearly be seen.
https://www.newstalk.com/news/coronavirus-60-irish-cases-traced-one-strain-spain-1099162
Wait a minute...didn't I already post the relevant science to this that lockdowns and border closures don't work? Awww shucks, you guys!
Unless, of course, you want to close all countries and all borders for about 2 years, you might stop the spread of the virus. But you'd have a mountain of dead bodies that vastly eclipses the COVID-19 deaths.
Huh? The article you posted literally says it was holidaymakers bringing the virus back from Spain.
And travel was possible. It happened in large patches over the summer. I rememebr, because people were wondering why the hell the government was allowing people to **** off on holidays when they shouldn't have.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Huh? The article you posted literally says it was holidaymakers bringing the virus back from Spain.
Yes. After a multi-month border closer/travel ban. Check out the rest of my post to see what I had to say about that:
Unless, of course, you want to close all countries and all borders for about 2 years, you might stop the spread of the virus. But you'd have a mountain of dead bodies that vastly eclipses the COVID-19 deaths.
It's not reasonable to close all countries and borders and lockdown for years to wait for the virus to die out among all populations before re-opening (which is what it would require).
If you remember, we got it from China, originally. This is how all VRIs work and have worked since the beginning of hominid history. This will always be a problem. We are stuck with this virus and it will continue to circulate the entire glob, relentlessly, no matter what actions we take. We can slow it for sure.
Originally posted by -Pr-
And travel was possible. It happened in large patches over the summer. I rememebr, because people were wondering why the hell the government was allowing people to **** off on holidays when they shouldn't have.
According to the article, they had a travel ban and the strain wasn't brought back until the ban was lifted when the first British nationals traveled and came back after the ban lifted.
Based on the new cases data, we should be seeing record numbers of deaths this week. Huge record number of deaths.
I mean, obviously, we won't. Not even close.
And the UK surpassed the US again in deaths per million. What's going on in the UK? They literally have the best healthcare in the world, overall, by most measures.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Based on the new cases data, we should be seeing record numbers of deaths this week. Huge record number of deaths.I mean, obviously, we won't. Not even close.
And the UK surpassed the US again in deaths per million. What's going on in the UK? They literally have the best healthcare in the world, overall, by most measures.
What measures are those? From what I’ve read the UK outcomes are pretty bad, in a lot of metrics almost as bad as the US’s, in big part because of the Tory austerity cuts and the part privatization of care.
Originally posted by cdtm
90% effective means millions dead. The entire African American population would be wiped out if they were that 10% it proved ineffective on.That's assuming the number is even accurate.
I think you are making a slight mistake here, 90% effective would mean that 90% of the population (that received the vaccine) would be immune to the virus, of those that could still get it not all of them would get it (possibly almost none, because of herd immunity), and the ones that would get it would die at the same rates that they do now, not all of them would die.
It would be a great success if they could manufacture it at the scale needed, get it to the people who need it and if it worked like they seem to think it does. It's a rare positive development, imo.
Originally posted by Artol
What measures are those? From what I’ve read the UK outcomes are pretty bad, in a lot of metrics almost as bad as the US’s, in big part because of the Tory austerity cuts and the part privatization of care.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-40608253
Granted, the US Think Tank, the Commonwealth Fund, is a pro-UHC think tank.
NHS scores 18 on this list (ranks life expectancy by Healthcare spent to GDP):
https://www.healtheuropa.eu/worlds-best-healthcare-systems/92537/
A televangelist who blamed COVID-19 on LGBTQ people, non-virgin brides, and people having sex outside of wedlock has died from the virus.
In March, Rev. Irvin Baxter Jr., blamed "the sin of fornication" for the COVID-19 pandemic.
"There are 7.5 million couples living together in the United States, this is not worldwide, just in America. 7.5 million couples. That means 15 million people that are living together unmarried."
Baxter then launched into an anti-gay tirade before adding that only "5% of new brides in America now are virgins. That means 95% have already committed fornication."
"If we think we can just ignore God and live a sinful lifestyle, well, we cannot do it. You know, I believe in what you're saying, that God may be using this as a wake-up call. This coronavirus may be a privilege, because I'll tell you right now, there's a much bigger judgment coming. It's in the Bible."
This week, Endtime Ministries announced Baxter died in the hospital on November 3rd, just a few days after testing positive for the coronavirus. He was 75 years old.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
A televangelist who blamed COVID-19 on LGBTQ people, non-virgin brides, and people having sex outside of wedlock has died from the virus.In March, Rev. Irvin Baxter Jr., blamed "the sin of fornication" for the COVID-19 pandemic.
"There are 7.5 million couples living together in the United States, this is not worldwide, just in America. 7.5 million couples. That means 15 million people that are living together unmarried."
Baxter then launched into an anti-gay tirade before adding that only "5% of new brides in America now are virgins. That means 95% have already committed fornication."
"If we think we can just ignore God and live a sinful lifestyle, well, we cannot do it. You know, I believe in what you're saying, that God may be using this as a wake-up call. This coronavirus may be a privilege, because I'll tell you right now, there's a much bigger judgment coming. It's in the Bible."
This week, Endtime Ministries announced Baxter died in the hospital on November 3rd, just a few days after testing positive for the coronavirus. He was 75 years old.
Maybe God does work in mysterious ways?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
A televangelist who blamed COVID-19 on LGBTQ people, non-virgin brides, and people having sex outside of wedlock has died from the virus.In March, Rev. Irvin Baxter Jr., blamed "the sin of fornication" for the COVID-19 pandemic.
"There are 7.5 million couples living together in the United States, this is not worldwide, just in America. 7.5 million couples. That means 15 million people that are living together unmarried."
Baxter then launched into an anti-gay tirade before adding that only "5% of new brides in America now are virgins. That means 95% have already committed fornication."
"If we think we can just ignore God and live a sinful lifestyle, well, we cannot do it. You know, I believe in what you're saying, that God may be using this as a wake-up call. This coronavirus may be a privilege, because I'll tell you right now, there's a much bigger judgment coming. It's in the Bible."
This week, Endtime Ministries announced Baxter died in the hospital on November 3rd, just a few days after testing positive for the coronavirus. He was 75 years old.
This legit seems like divine punishment.
Edit - Why is it that I only hear about conservatives dying from COVID-19? Surely half of all deaths are from "not conservatives" so why is it that conservatives are consistently pointed out when they die from COVID-19?
Originally posted by dadudemonEdit - Why is it that I only hear about conservatives dying from COVID-19? Surely half of all deaths are from "not conservatives" so why is it that conservatives are consistently pointed out when they die from COVID-19? [/B]
That's just not accurate... Most deaths are from the cities, which aren't conservative, so....
https://people.com/health/celebrity-coronavirus-deaths/
Quite a few liberals on this list I think. *Shrugs*. Maybe the conservative stories are more noticeable, because by and large, conservatives downplay the seriousness of the epidemic.
Originally posted by truejedi
https://people.com/health/celebrity-coronavirus-deaths/Quite a few liberals on this list I think. *Shrugs*. Maybe the conservative stories are more noticeable, because by and large, conservatives downplay the seriousness of the epidemic.
That's quite he list that I wasn't aware of and I recognized maybe 1 to 0 of those people.
This is correct. Media was way more forgiving of this, it's why they aren't allies or even neutral.