Texas is now the worst place in the country.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/11/us/texas-one-million-covid-cases/index.html
Originally posted by roughrider
Texas is now the worst place in the country.https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/11/us/texas-one-million-covid-cases/index.html
New York is still leading in deaths.
Looks like the next season of COVID-19 is here.
And it's earlier than other coronaviruses.
Good news is, Florida appears to be nearly done.
Bad news is, very few states had such terrible experiences with NY resulting in NYs partial herd immunity but NY is still seeing a slight bump in deaths from it.
This is the new normal until everyone is immune.
Italy is on lockdown. And it is not doing any good for them:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54839429
They hit over 600 deaths, today.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02948-4
The false promise of herd immunity for COVID-19
Why proposals to largely let the virus run its course — embraced by Donald Trump’s administration and others — could bring “untold death and sufferingâ€.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Now we see evidence of what we have been observing in people for months, now: longterm immunity to SARS-CoV-2. With studies showing pre-existing immunity from other cold viruses (who shared such similar antigens with SARS-CoV-2 that it provided somewhere between 40%-60% immunity to the population), new studies are confirming that we see long term immunity even after exposure to SARS-CoV-2.This is good news. And it reflects what we are seeing in places like Belgium, Sweden, and NYC: very near heard immunity as very few new cases and deaths are seen in those places.
Antibodies also come with an expiration date: Because they are inanimate proteins and not living cells, they can’t replenish themselves, and so disappear from the blood just weeks or months after they are produced. Hoards of antibodies appear shortly after a virus has breached the body’s barriers, then wane as the threat dissipates. Most of the B cells that produce these early antibodies die off as well.But even when not under siege, the body retains a battalion of longer-lived B cells that can churn out virus-fighting antibodies en masse, should they prove useful again. Some patrol the bloodstream, waiting to be triggered anew; others retreat into the bone marrow, generating small amounts of antibodies that are detectable years, sometimes decades, after an infection is over. Several studies, including those led by Bhattacharya and Pepper, have found antibodies capable of incapacitating the coronavirus lingering at low levels in the blood months after people have recovered from COVID-19.
“The antibodies decline, but they settle in what looks like a stable nadir,” which is observable about three months after symptoms start, Bhattacharya said. “The response looks perfectly durable.”
Seeing antibodies this long after infection is a strong indication that B cells are still chugging away in the bone marrow, Pepper said. She and her team were also able to pluck B cells that recognize the coronavirus from the blood of people who have recovered from mild cases of COVID-19 and grow them in the lab.
Multiple studies, including one published Friday in the journal Cell, have also managed to isolate coronavirus-attacking T cells from the blood of recovered individuals — long after symptoms have disappeared. When provoked with bits of the coronavirus in the lab, these T cells pumped out virus-fighting signals, and cloned themselves into fresh armies ready to confront a familiar foe. Some reports have noted that analyses of T cells could give researchers a glimpse into the immune response to the coronavirus, even in patients whose antibody levels have declined to a point where they are difficult to detect.
“This is very promising,” said Smita Iyer, an immunologist at the University of California, Davis, who is studying immune responses to the coronavirus in rhesus macaques but was not involved in the new studies. “This calls for some optimism about herd immunity, and potentially a vaccine.”
Notably, several of the new studies are finding these powerful responses in people who did not develop severe cases of COVID-19, Iyer added. Some researchers have worried that infections that take a smaller toll on the body are less memorable to the immune system’s studious cells, which may prefer to invest their resources in more serious assaults. In some cases, the body could even jettison the viruses so quickly that it fails to catalog them. “This paper suggests this is not true,” Iyer said. “You can still get durable immunity without suffering the consequences of infection.”
The researchers are also apt to point out that they do not have the smoking gun research that shows long-term immunity remains in place because it has still only been a few months after the first infections. But since the time tables are now exceeding the original 3 month antibody drop, and they are finding markers of anitbodies this long after, it speaks volumes to long-term immunity. As always, this is not a 100% across the board thing: others may become reinfected especially if they have poor immune systems.
You can find Herd Immunity data, research, commentary, and details, on this site:
https://coronavirusbellcurve.com/#statesherd
Originally posted by dadudemon
And for those interested in the actual science of herd immunity and the states which have passed the threshold:https://coronavirusbellcurve.com/#statesherd
Tons of great info and data on this site about trends.
They even include percent of nursing home/car home deaths as a percent of their total deaths. So you can see which states majorly failed to protect the elderly who constitute a plurality to a majority of COVID-19 deaths.
Wisconsin, experiencing their 2nd but severe coronavirus wave, just had their lockdown order from their governor thrown out.
Now all businesses can reopen and people can go back to their public lives.
Oddly, during this second lockdown, it did shit to stop the spread of the coronavirus. This corresponds to previous research which found no efficacy in lockdowns, border closures, and rapid border closures.
Guess what? We are all f*cked until enough people get sick that partial herd immunity sets in or the virus mutates itself out of existence. A vaccine might help but you need broad immnunity to coronaviruses which just requires you to be exposed to various coronavirus strains multiple times while having a strong immune system. Not an option for everyone. We are just plain f8cked until it mutates out of virility.
I got tested last Wednesday, results Friday night, positive:.
Coworker I work closely with at work, and my wife both got tested the next day, and are STILL waiting on results. My wife works in a high traffic, open to the public city job, and her entire branch is waiting on her test on whether to shut down or not. Meanwhile her potentially infected, yet essential workers continue to serve thousands of people a day.
The system of checks and lockdowns would work well if everyone did it. Unfortunately 70M people believe a lie telling them the virus isn't a real threat. Even during our lockdowns people wouldn't take it seriously. With this, it's not something where half of us can take it seriously and half don't need to.
This pandemic being out of control is a direct responsibility of everyone who didn't follow the rules, regardless of party. In China, with forced lockdowns, they kicked this things ass.
Originally posted by truejedi
I got tested last Wednesday, results Friday night, positive:.
Coworker I work closely with at work, and my wife both got tested the next day, and are STILL waiting on results. My wife works in a high traffic, open to the public city job, and her entire branch is waiting on her test on whether to shut down or not. Meanwhile her potentially infected, yet essential workers continue to serve thousands of people a day.The system of checks and lockdowns would work well if everyone did it. Unfortunately 70M people believe a lie telling them the virus isn't a real threat. Even during our lockdowns people wouldn't take it seriously. With this, it's not something where half of us can take it seriously and half don't need to.
This pandemic being out of control is a direct responsibility of everyone who didn't follow the rules, regardless of party. In China, with forced lockdowns, they kicked this things ass.
Who are these 70M people who think the coronavirus is a lie? That's a fringe belief group. Don't mistake a few nutters for about 50% of Americans.
Also, why are you shilling for China who most certainly did not kick this virus' ass they just hide information about it? What, do you think China has better healthcare infrastructure and mobility than Japan and are magically outperforming Japan on COVID-19 response?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Who are these 70M people who think the coronavirus is a lie? That's a fringe belief group. Don't mistake a few nutters for about 50% of Americans.Also, why are you shilling for China who most certainly did not kick this virus' ass they just hide information about it? What, do you think China has better healthcare infrastructure and mobility than Japan and are magically outperforming Japan on COVID-19 response?
You have to realize China is an honest actor in this play 😉
Originally posted by dadudemon
Who are these 70M people who think the coronavirus is a lie? That's a fringe belief group. Don't mistake a few nutters for about 50% of Americans.Also, why are you shilling for China who most certainly did not kick this virus' ass they just hide information about it? What, do you think China has better healthcare infrastructure and mobility than Japan and are magically outperforming Japan on COVID-19 response?
November 3rd was a referendum on Coronavirus as much as anything else. 70m people voted for a guy who said it was over. For a guy who said it was going from 15 cases down to zero, and a guy who simply put failed to take it seriously. It might not be all 70m, but definitely more than a "few nutters". He made coronavirus political, instead of speaking to ask Americans to come together and beat this thing.
I'll drop China, since you brought up Japan-- they took it seriously and got it much more under control than we did. In fact, almost every nation in the world can say the same thing.
Originally posted by truejedi
November 3rd was a referendum on Coronavirus as much as anything else. 70m people voted for a guy who said it was over. For a guy who said it was going from 15 cases down to zero, and a guy who simply put failed to take it seriously. It might not be all 70m, but definitely more than a "few nutters". He made coronavirus political, instead of speaking to ask Americans to come together and beat this thing.I'll drop China, since you brought up Japan-- they took it seriously and got it much more under control than we did. In fact, almost every nation in the world can say the same thing.
Great, that means everyone that voted for Biden is a racist, seeing as they voted for a known racist.
Who did you support again?