Coronavirus

Originally posted by dadudemon
[b]How fast does it mutate?

Much slower than the seasonal flu.

Does it recur?

Yes, which is why people find it absurd to keep locked down until 2022. With a viable vaccine, in large quantities, not being available until Q3-ish 2021, this has people worried. The virus is not "biphasic" if that's what you meant. But like all of the seasonal flu issues, you'll have mutations that may vary enough that you won't have immunity from it and you'll get sick all over again. Just like Rhinovirus. Just like the various strains of H1N1, H3N2, etc.

Does it do permanent damage to our bodies (to a significant enough portion of the ones considered “not at risk”)?

No. And healthy individuals extremely rarely die from it. Estimates range from a large minority to a significant majority being asymptomatic. Of the ones who do get ill, half to a majority only experience mild symptoms. Of the ones who get severely ill, only 4% require hospitalization. Of the ones that require hospitalization, at the highest level of risk (age 85+), case fatality rate ranged from 10%-27%.

With a mortality rate at about the same as the seasonal flu but a higher R0, it's still not on track to kill as many people as the rhinovirus (common cold) kills in children, alone, each year. For context, about 2 million children die each year from the complications related to rhinovirus. The rhinovirus was discovered to have a higher mortality rate than even the flu. We do not have a vaccine for the rhinovirus. We do not shut the world down for the flu and cold season.

How long does the immunity last?

Any numbers would be an educated guess but since coronavirus mutates more slowly than the flu, the answer is "longer than the flu."

Is there a chance we can get reinfected again?

Answered previously with the biphasic point.

Is there a chance for the immune and asymptomatic to transmit the virus to their loved ones who are then vulnerable.

Yes, but only in a small window where an asymptomatic carrier "sheds" the virus. This window is about 14 days. If you were ill, about 3 days after you are symptom free.

To the rest of your point, the most effective and least "life-cost" method is to protect the elderly and vulnerable for 4-6 weeks but get everyone else to stay out and about as much as possible to reach heard immunity as quickly as possible. That's the suggestion of leading epidemiologists from Stanford.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.28.20036715v3

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I haven't seen durrdurrman recently...

so much wrongness. they well give it a few weeks or maybe months, and then come back pretending they weren't wrong in every post they made during 2020.

I thought they were off in someone's bunker waiting for the storm to pass.

Originally posted by truejedi
so much wrongness. they well give it a few weeks or maybe months, and then come back pretending they weren't wrong in every post they made during 2020.

Not before one of them creates a sock account and trolls the relevant threads to get them locked and deleted, removing all the evidence. That is their M.O. Then they can pretend they never said the things they said, because noone cannot go back and quote them.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Not before one of them creates a sock account and trolls the relevant threads to get them locked and deleted, removing all the evidence. That is their M.O. Then they can pretend they never said the things they said, because noone cannot go back and quote them.

I feel they made a separate discord to ***** about us because we raided their initial effort.

Originally posted by Blakemore
I feel they made a separate discord to ***** about us because we raided their initial effort.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I think so.

Originally posted by Blakemore
I feel they made a separate discord to ***** about us because we raided their initial effort.

As me and Whirly suspected, Israeli data shows not a good idea to delay the second dose of the vaccine:

https://youtu.be/XOZDa4rKxNg

Basically Efficacy of the one dose likely isnt high enough.

Joe Biden holds memorial for 400,000 Americans who have died of Covid-19

Joe Biden memorialized the more than 400,000 Americans who have died from Covid-19 during a vigil in Washington late on Tuesday afternoon, as many Americans took to social media in collective mourning.

The grim milestone was passed earlier on Tuesday as the latest figures from Johns Hopkins University show that about 401,128 people have now been killed by the virus in the US amid more than 24m cases – both numbers being by far the highest in the world.

“To heal, we must remember,” Biden said at the memorial. “It’s hard sometimes to remember, but that’s how we heal. It’s important to do that as a nation.” -snip

Originally posted by Darth Thor
As me and Whirly suspected, Israeli data shows not a good idea to delay the second dose of the vaccine:

https://youtu.be/XOZDa4rKxNg

Basically Efficacy of the one dose likely isnt high enough.

Well that's shit news.

But my mother who got her first vaccine last week, is scheduled for her second early next month. So not so sure if the single vaccine method is being used in the US or in some areas.

Originally posted by Robtard
Well that's shit news.

But my mother who got her first vaccine last week, is scheduled for her second early next month. So not so sure if the single vaccine method is being used in the US or in some areas.

Its best you are not. Need both doses IMO.

We are getting both doses here but after a delay. But im guessing until the second dose the efficacy (especially with new variants) wont be more than 50%. Which I guess is still something, but hardly enough to make us feel safe.

I personally say do things properly. Will get there more slowly, but get there for sure.

My understanding is that the second dose should be delayed a bit because it makes the efficacy a higher %.

Got an alert this morning that a second case of the "super" virus that is much more contagious was confirmed in my state.

Originally posted by Smasandian
My understanding is that the second dose should be delayed a bit because it makes the efficacy a higher %.

Its delayed to get more people vaccinated with the current supply.

If there was an unlimited supply they wouldnt be delaying it.

Originally posted by Blakemore
for shame, if so. ❌

Originally posted by Newjak
A safe space if you will

Originally posted by Darth Thor
As me and Whirly suspected, Israeli data shows not a good idea to delay the second dose of the vaccine:

https://youtu.be/XOZDa4rKxNg

Basically Efficacy of the one dose likely isnt high enough.

Originally posted by Smasandian
My understanding is that the second dose should be delayed a bit because it makes the efficacy a higher %.

Originally posted by Quincy
Got an alert this morning that a second case of the "super" virus that is much more contagious was confirmed in my state.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Its delayed to get more people vaccinated with the current supply.

If there was an unlimited supply they wouldnt be delaying it.

I'll take a Wuhan Virus but can you make mine British Variant and served American Conservative Style (Without a mask)

Originally posted by Blakemore
for shame, if so. ❌