Originally posted by cdtm
Fair statement.The CDC has this to say on the subject:
missed this post.
"Having obesity may triple the risk of hospitalization due to a COVID-19 infection"
may triple the risk, which means: at this point in time (not a forever rule) it possibly triples the existing risk as a person with no obesity. not sure how "no big deal" multiplied by 3 Is a huge deal, unless you go by feels-math and bro-science, and ignore that literally all of us are at risk. still the same assertion is made all throughout the thread. this was just another variation of the same distortion: "This has been one of the mildest plagues we have recorded especially considering comorbidity factors, if you aren't old and fat your chances are very good of surviving." ....
1/3 of f*cked is still pretty f*cked. sorry *shrug*
:edit: I do appreciate you posting that cdc figure, though. it at least gives us some real grounded non-feels perspective. solid contribution 👆
:edit 2: the cdc also suggests that cigarette smoking increases the chences of getting lung cancer by 15-30 times. this is why I'm getting weary of the silly assertions made in this thread
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
missed this post."Having obesity may triple the risk of hospitalization due to a COVID-19 infection"
[B]may triple the risk
, which means: at this point in time (not a forever rule) it possibly triples the existing risk as a person with no obesity. not sure how "no big deal" multiplied by 3 Is a huge deal, unless you go by feels-math and bro-science, and ignore that literally all of us are at risk. still the same assertion is made all throughout the thread. this was just another variation of the same distortion: "This has been one of the mildest plagues we have recorded especially considering comorbidity factors, if you aren't old and fat your chances are very good of surviving." ....1/3 of f*cked is still pretty f*cked. sorry *shrug*
:edit: I do appreciate you posting that cdc figure, though. it at least gives us some real grounded non-feels perspective. solid contribution 👆
:edit 2: the cdc also suggests that cigarette smoking increases the chences of getting lung cancer by 15-30 times. this is why I'm getting weary of the silly assertions made in this thread [/B]
Who said the risk for your average person was no big deal? 😅
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
oh I get it: "trolololo" 🙄k have fun 👆
:edit: the "who's online" page once again shows 40+ guests viewing this thread 🤪
I think you're accusing me of something someone else said.
To my recollection, I certainly never said the chances of getting sick with Covid were low.
YouTube video hmmmm.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
we know that the state of being obese and the state of having high blood pressure put people at a higher risk.
Yes. Of having a higher chance of suffering moderate to severe symptoms after contracting covid. This is my point and this is what the meta analysis of the studies conducted has shown so far.
No one, well at least not me, is making the argument that all obese people who get covid will get those symptoms. I'm not even that most will because clearly the vast majority of people, obese or not, only get mild symptoms or none at all. But the fact remains that obesity puts people at higher risk.
The UK government published that the % of clinically obese people who developed symptoms that then required hospitalisation was 8% compared to 2.9% of the overall population.
Originally posted by Blakemore
YouTube video hmmmm.
I still don't get the figures, in the sense that blue states have far more minorities on average, and allegedly minority vaccines are still not where they should be, yet blue states are beating red states in vaccination rates.
I mean, I get there's been religious leaders helping the major push in blue states, but are the rates bad or not?
Are anti-vaxers really that big a proportion of the reds, relative to the red state residents who chose vaccinations?
Could there be availability as an issue, with Reds simply not having the access Blues do?
Originally posted by cdtmlaughcry
I still don't get the figures, in the sense that blue states have far more minorities on average, and allegedly minority vaccines are still not where they should be, yet blue states are beating red states in vaccination rates.I mean, I get there's been religious leaders helping the major push in blue states, but are the rates bad or not?
Are anti-vaxers really that big a proportion of the reds, relative to the red state residents who chose vaccinations?
Could there be availability as an issue, with Reds simply not having the access Blues do?
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
No one, well at least not me, is making the argument that all obese people who get covid will get those symptoms.
bullshit. it's been suggested the entire thread that you're probably okay if you're not fat/cold, and you know it. and yes, you're all so very careful to not make it an absolute statement. all you do is suggest the F*CK out if it, and never drop the topic even though it's a distortion of the truth and a waste of time. what we do know is that you are only 3 times more likely to suffer symptoms, etc. but please, you also have a good time gaslighting. such fun. enjoy yourself. 👆
Originally posted by snowdragon
This has been one of the mildest plagues we have recorded especially considering comorbidity factors, if you aren't old and fat your chances are very good of surviving. I say that and also say it's better to get the vaccine.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
bullshit. it's been suggested the entire thread that you're probably okay if you're not fat/cold, and you know it. and yes, you're all so very careful to not make it an absolute statement. all you do is suggest the F*CK out if it, and never drop the topic even though it's a distortion of the truth and a waste of time. but you also have a good time gaslighting. such fun. enjoy yourself. 👆
I didn't read the entire thread though.
And I thought the point of vaccine's and masks and social distancing is the risks are too great to take that chance.
I mean, no one is saying Covid-19 is a sure death sentence for a healthy unvaccinated person, but to suggest it's nothing if you aren't obese or have health issues? That's crazy talk.
Originally posted by cdtm
And I thought the point of vaccine's and masks and social distancing is the risks are too great to take that chance.
"...because becoming not-obese is JUST AS QUICK, EASY, AND EFFECTIVE as getting a vaccine or putting on a mask or not standing close enough to rub your dick on a stranger's ass. *honk honk* clown.