Originally posted by ozz81
Cool reckon if Maul didnt get his half body cut and was still under palpatine reckon he would have excelled and hence become potentially more powerful then dooku? Ie more matured and skilled Sith lord etc
Yes. Weve already discussed his original potential was likely very close to Palpatines.
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Maul? It's a solid misscalculation I would say. There were a few beings, that had a really great potential. Like Dooku, like Mace. Maul could be, and probalby was in a very same league with them. But beings like Yoda or Sidious are on completly different level. Not only their knowledge or skill, but their raw powers as well.
Maul could be as well enhanced after he lost a half of his body. Unlike Anakin, he had a very diffenet treatment. He could be a half cyborg, but in the same time, he could be enhanced by Talzin's magic. And it's clear, that she is capable of making people stronger. In the Force possibly, physicaly for sure. Maul could has a bigger amp from Talzin as well as he could be wekaer due to his injuries.
Ah, I forgot. I can be wrong, since my knowledge about disney shit-canon is less then a knowledge of padawan about the Force.
Originally posted by McP
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Maul? It's a solid misscalculation I would say. There were a few beings, that had a really great potential. Like Dooku, like Mace. Maul could be, and probalby was in a very same league with them. But beings like Yoda or Sidious are on completly different level. Not only their knowledge or skill, but their raw powers as well.Maul could be as well enhanced after he lost a half of his body. Unlike Anakin, he had a very diffenet treatment. He could be a half cyborg, but in the same time, he could be enhanced by Talzin's magic. And it's clear, that she is capable of making people stronger. In the Force possibly, physicaly for sure. Maul could has a bigger amp from Talzin as well as he could be wekaer due to his injuries.
Ah, I forgot. I can be wrong, since my knowledge about disney shit-canon is less then a knowledge of padawan about the Force.
yeah true that i guess, just generally the Darth maul clone in legends did quite well , he pretty much beat darth vader..
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yes. Weve already discussed his original potential was likely very close to Palpatines.
Yeah great point, even as you mentioned before savage opress did pretty good against dooku in the cartoon series, he seemed to defeat dooku: or seemed more better in his light saber skills/duel, but then dooku used his lightning to overpower savage but then savage didnt retreat either he kept getting up, he used his force push against dooku etc which was quite uber.. But obviously darth maul will be better then savage in his light saber skills and should do well against dooku...
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'm not sure where you're going with that.Do you think Maul wins?
yeah possibly in a light saber duel i reckon: maybe , because dooku didnt seem to do well against Opress, Opress sort of seemed to get the upper hand..
He also used his force abilities on Dooku which was pretty impressive..
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I'm not sure where you're going with that.Do you think Maul wins?
Im pointing out how ridiculous it is to say what you did. That Dooku wins with Mild effort while not dropping wine.
Mauls inferior Savage already dropped Dooku, and his lightsaber. Let alone his wine Lmao
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Im pointing out how ridiculous it is to say what you did. That Dooku wins with Mild effort while not dropping wine.Mauls inferior Savage already dropped Dooku, and his lightsaber. Let alone his wine Lmao
ok but styles make matches as does location and several other factors, its been established already that Dookus Makashi style has a huge problem with highly kinetic aka strong hitting duelists, Savage knocking Dooku around was down to him being physically superior to Dooku not technically superior and maul isn't on that level of strength so your point about Savage smacking him around is kind of moot.
also take into consideration the tight maneuvering area they were fighting in and the fact that Assajj was there primarily as a combatant against Dooku as well; Sidious managed to make short work of BOTH bros at the same time but he had lots of room to maneuver
Obi Wan was able to cripple Savage in very tight quarters, are you saying he's stronger than Dooku or more skilled than the guy who routinely wipes the floor with him??
Fact is that Dooku has a fighting style that specifically goes after other duelists, he's got much more knowledge in the force as observed in the fact that he can utilize FL, he was able to hold his own with Yoda and gain a favourable outcome, something Maul and his brother weren't able to accomplish against Yodas equal
All evidence points to a win for Dooku
Originally posted by Darth ThorIt's not redicoulus though as he didn't spill his wine against a foe who would give Maul a hard time.
Im pointing out how ridiculous it is to say what you did. That Dooku wins with Mild effort while not dropping wine.Mauls inferior Savage already dropped Dooku, and his lightsaber. Let alone his wine Lmao
Originally posted by relentless1
ok but styles make matches as does location and several other factors, its been established already that Dookus Makashi style has a huge problem with highly kinetic aka strong hitting duelists, Savage knocking Dooku around was down to him being physically superior to Dooku not technically superior and maul isn't on that level of strength so your point about Savage smacking him around is kind of moot.also take into consideration the tight maneuvering area they were fighting in and the fact that Assajj was there primarily as a combatant against Dooku as well; Sidious managed to make short work of BOTH bros at the same time but he had lots of room to maneuver
Obi Wan was able to cripple Savage in very tight quarters, are you saying he's stronger than Dooku or more skilled than the guy who routinely wipes the floor with him??
Fact is that Dooku has a fighting style that specifically goes after other duelists, he's got much more knowledge in the force as observed in the fact that he can utilize FL, he was able to hold his own with Yoda and gain a favourable outcome, something Maul and his brother weren't able to accomplish against Yodas equal
All evidence points to a win for Dooku
Cool good points , Dooku couldn’t really defeat savage In a light sabre duel and resorted to the lightening etc but when savage fought against maul(savage got angry maul was telling him he was his apprentice etc) , maul defeated savage in a few seconds ..
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Are you talking about the time Savage blind sided Dooku with a force choke beforehand?Of course you are LOL.
No. But watch that whole fight and you might pick up the relevant point.
Not that he should be blind sided given he can even handle Maul without spilling his wine Lmao
Originally posted by Darth ThorDooku fights on a different level while drinking wine so I still stand by my stance.
Shouldnt be an issue for someone who can apparently defeat a far more dangerous opponent (Maul) without spilling his wine.
Dooku wins without spilling his wine. Now if he had beer it might be a different story.