Sentry Vs. the Omega Beams.

Started by Stoic10 pages

Great post Enzeri.

Enzeri, Bob exited the stage, and will be back once he gets it together so to speak.

Originally posted by Stoic
There are many different citations. Owen took note that his molecules, although real, should not actually exist in that particular comic universe’s reality. The Sentry is as real as Robert believes that he is. His strength, durability, and powers all depend on what Robert believes is real, and not real.

The Sentry can not die because it isn’t truly alive apart from Robert believing that he/it is. Take note of all of his various appearances. Note that he has different versions of himself/itself. To understand the Sentry, or more importantly Robert Reynolds, is to first understand his psychological condition.

People in real life that suffer from his condition were often born with a damaged amygdala, or had it damaged over the course of their lives.

Imagine also this person having the power of a million exploding stars.

In real life, people that suffer from this condition have bouts, or wrestle against what is real and not real. A person with a healthy amygdala will see reality as it is, and not an illusion built up on improper information. His reality, or assessment of reality differs from a person with a healthy amygdala. The difference here is that Robert has all of this power attached to this condition.

In a way, he’s a lot like Bizarro. Having all of this power, but not able to access all of it due to his condition. We had a few glimpses of how powerful he could become. Deathseed was one, and his confrontations with Owen is another. Voidtry was how Bob imagined himself being at that particular time, only to return as what he deems to be the ultimate good guy.

Sorry for any typos.

Show me scans or give issue numbers then provide your conclusion based off those showings. Do not give summaries or conclusions without a scan or issue number to back it up.

Originally posted by Enzeru
Stoic is right, when he says that Sentry is nothing more than a construct. Stoic just sometimes fails to showcase it.
But before I provide scans, I do want to point out that Bob does remain close to the Sentry and Void. It's not like Bob is somewhere in outer space looking down at his creations of Sentry and Void. In my opinion (judging by everything seen in comics so far) drinking the serum turned Sentry into a consciousness. That consciousness is on Earth and has created the body of a person for himself.

In Uncanny Avengers VOL 1 #15 he confirms that his body is just flesh and that he is driven by his soul:

https://i.imgur.com/BRQSqU8.jpg

In Sentry VOL 2 #6 his therapist comes to the conclusion that Bob is a schizophrenic, whose imaginary personas took on a physical form:

https://i.imgur.com/55EsgiD.jpg

In Sentry VOL 3 #3 Sentrys former sidekick confirms that Sentry and Void are just make-belief and that they are constructs created and empowered / depowered by Bobs will:

https://i.imgur.com/qa007KX.png

You can destroy the Sentry, but you can't kill him. He is there and he isn't. Did Knull really kill the Sentry? How? Was it because he was on a higher level of existence and simply overwrote Sentrys power? Was it because he absorbed half of Sentry and now Sentry can't restore himself back to completion? Or is the Sentry only dead, because he believes to be dead? No matter what it is, the writers can do whatever they want and everything will make sense, because with the Sentry nothing makes sense in the first place. Sentry is schizophrenic and he is written in a schizophrenic way.

I believed both were constructs. My question was mostly where is Bob when these constructs are operating. If Bob is inside the construct then the Omega Sanction affects everything inside the construction (soul, consciousness, etc).

The Omega Sanction is a soul catcher.

OE sent the Omega People through time. All Darkseid needs to do is send him to the end of time.

Unless Sentry has the power to travel through time under his own power, that should be game over.

Originally posted by h1a8
I believed both were constructs. My question was mostly where is Bob when these constructs are operating. If Bob is inside the construct then the Omega Sanction affects everything inside the construction (soul, consciousness, etc).

Those scans don't prove his soul isn't tied to the body. Meaning the soul gets trapped, or is forced to relocate with the body.

Same way Kosmos was put to sleep by Thanos while inhabiting a mortal form.

Originally posted by cdtm
OE sent the Omega People through time. All Darkseid needs to do is send him to the end of time.

Unless Sentry has the power to travel through time under his own power, that should be game over.

he does; Morganna le fey plot showed that.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
he does; Morganna le fey plot showed that.

Was actually thinking of that but was unsure of the details, whether he traveled through time or resurrected at the same spot.

Originally posted by h1a8
Show me scans or give issue numbers then provide your conclusion based off those showings. Do not give summaries or conclusions without a scan or issue number to back it up.

Do you, or do you not see the scans my guy?

So if the Sentry is just a construct.....what does it matter?

GLs use constructs all the time against DS, it doesn't stop the OB from affecting them.

Moreover, as per the thread, it would affect him. New Gods are nothing more than ideas and concepts, and the OB affects them just fine

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So if the Sentry is just a construct.....what does it matter?

GLs use constructs all the time against DS, it doesn't stop the OB from affecting them.

Moreover, as per the thread, it would affect him. New Gods are nothing more than ideas and concepts, and the OB affects them just fine

I think his argument is that the body is a puppet, or remotely controlled.

Which as far as I know hasn't been hinted at. His soul inhibits his "construct" afaik.

Originally posted by Stoic
Do you, or do you not see the scans my guy?

You didn't post any to support your argument.

Originally posted by cdtm
I think his argument is that the body is a puppet, or remotely controlled.

Which as far as I know hasn't been hinted at. His soul inhibits his "construct" afaik.

Sentry isn't remotely controlled. The sentry is a physical manifestation/transformation of what bob thinks is an ideal superhero. Hence "the Golden protector"
He bleeds, feels emotions, has bobs conscious. The OB affects him as he's not just some soulless construct imo.

Originally posted by Booya_69
Sentry isn't remotely controlled. The sentry is a physical manifestation/transformation of what bob thinks is an ideal superhero. Hence "the Golden protector"
He bleeds, feels emotions, has bobs conscious. The OB affects him as he's not just some soulless construct imo.

Then how do you explain him tearing his head open for all to see. Robert didn’t so much as get stitches to mend that shit. Did he/it imagine splitting his head open like a melon?

Do we ignore the white room that he was in while his other self was out in the cold cruel world? Help me to make sense of it all.

Well his powerset allows to have control of his molecular structure. In the original mini we see Bob slowly transform into the sentry when he starts to get his memories back. In another instance, Robert tells lindy that he and the sentry are the same

Originally posted by Stoic
Then how do you explain him tearing his head open for all to see. Robert didn’t so much as get stitches to mend that shit. Did he/it imagine splitting his head open like a melon?

Do we ignore the white room that he was in while his other self was out in the cold cruel world? Help me to make sense of it all.

Remember that Cyborg Superman is a non physical entity who inhabits constructs.

Darkseid still trapped him.

Originally posted by cdtm
Remember that Cyborg Superman is a non physical entity who inhabits constructs.

Darkseid still trapped him.

That’s not the same thing though. Bob has created an entire reality of make believe people and shit. Owen was about to erase the Sentry, and then stopped the process. He then learned how to apparently use Owen’s powers against him. I’m not convinced that the Omega’s would work. Doom used magic on him. Doom was one step away from being brutally murdered had he not stopped. He later used magic against him again which was all but ignored as Sentry as Sentry broke through his defenses as if there weren’t any.

I still want to know how he brought Lindy back to life after she was dead. What kind of powers can do that?

Reality warping ones?