Yeah. Even if we subscribe to the idea that Sentry is just an idea that sprung from Bob's mind, and is just a construct driven by sheer willpower, however, it still doesn't mean that the Omega Beams/Sanction won't affect him.
The Omega Beams have affected GL constructs plenty of times - and they are nothing more than constructs, given physical form, and powered by willpower.
They've also affected New Gods - who are nothing more than sentient ideas and concepts.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah. Even if we subscribe to the idea that Sentry is just an idea that sprung from Bob's mind, and is just a construct driven by sheer willpower, however, it still doesn't mean that the Omega Beams/Sanction won't affect him.The Omega Beams have affected GL constructs plenty of times - and they are nothing more than constructs, given physical form, and powered by willpower.
They've also affected New Gods - who are nothing more than sentient ideas and concepts.
Except for the idea that they may not fully work on him. Owen as I stated began erasing him during their confrontation. Owen as we know is an extremely powerful character. His powers were used against him by the Sentry. What happens if the Sentry did the same thing? There are basically two things that would happen. One, the Omega beams would disperse the construct who would be seen later, or they would begin working but then appear to fizzle out. Two, the Sentry would be hit by them and reverse the effects of the Omega beams. Can we be certain that they would work? If so what do you base this on? We know that they would not kill him. The Sentry can not die. Death has no hold on the Sentry.
We still will not ever know whether or not the Omega beams would have a permanent, or lasting effect on him. Whenever things become too tense on the Sentry, Bob vanishes. He pretends to die but in reality he just sits it out until he can psychologically cope the gravity of the situation. I mean Knull apparently killed him, but then we see Jane the Valkyrie having a conversation about life with him.
Another incarnation of him splits his head open, disappears, and then turns up looking like he did as an Avenger.
The Void is Robert having a really bad day.
The Sentry isn’t real, thus the Omega beams will have no effect if Robert believes that they have no effect.
Originally posted by Stoic
We still will not ever know whether or not the Omega beams would have a permanent, or lasting effect on him. Whenever things become too tense on the Sentry, Bob vanishes. He pretends to die but in reality he just sits it out until he can psychologically cope the gravity of the situation. I mean Knull apparently killed him, but then we see Jane the Valkyrie having a conversation about life with him.Another incarnation of him splits his head open, disappears, and then turns up looking like he did as an Avenger.
The Void is Robert having a really bad day.
The Sentry isn’t real, thus the Omega beams will have no effect if Robert believes that they have no effect.
There you go again ignoring context. The Sentry isn’t real, that’s exactly why they wouldn’t work on him. They may not even lock onto him. Rogue can’t power hack him, and neither could the Absorbing Man. Why? Because he isn’t real. It’s the same reason why his molecules are alien to reality 9comic book reality that is). By all means though, continue ignoring context.
Originally posted by Stoic
There you go again ignoring context. The Sentry isn’t real, that’s exactly why they wouldn’t work on him. They may not even lock onto him. Rogue can’t power hack him, and neither could the Absorbing Man. Why? Because he isn’t real. It’s the same reason why his molecules are alien to reality 9comic book reality that is). By all means though, continue ignoring context.
What context? You didn't post any scans.
Sentry is real. Who koed BM then.
Physical things are real things. Sentry is a physical being
Originally posted by StoicIt seemed like Absorbing was absorbing his power, but it overloaded him. I haven't seen the Rogue one.
There you go again ignoring context. The Sentry isn’t real, that’s exactly why they wouldn’t work on him. They may not even lock onto him. Rogue can’t power hack him, and neither could the Absorbing Man. Why? Because he isn’t real. It’s the same reason why his molecules are alien to reality 9comic book reality that is). By all means though, continue ignoring context.
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
this is one of the most hilarious arguments i've ever seen made here. 😂sentry isn't untouchable ffs. 😂
The Sentry is a make believe character built from the mind of Robert Reynolds. Robert, or Bob for short. When Bob has a bad day, it could go a number of ways.
He could Void out, become weaker, or enormously powerful.
Full capacity is in effect right?
Originally posted by Stoic
The Sentry is a make believe character built from the mind of Robert Reynolds. Robert, or Bob for short. When Bob has a bad day, it could go a number of ways.He could Void out, become weaker, or enormously powerful.
Full capacity is in effect right?
Yet even on his best days he isn't untouchable.......
At his best, I argue that he would resist it. It would begin to work, but he would reverse the effects upon his quasi real body. It would likely cause a backlash on his psyche, but the results can not be determined with 100% accuracy. That is all that I am really arguing. The full capacity ruling works for all characters involved after all.
If you want my 2 cents:
I perceive Sentry as a sentient consciousness. That consciousness does adapt a physical form though, or maybe depending on what he is up to (splitting into twos, summoning more hive mind creatures etc).
Personally, I don't believe that Bob is somewhere in outer space summoning a body for himself or the Sentry or the Void on Earth. I do believe that he is inside these bodies. But once they get destroyed, he can simply reform.
Is he completely immortal and invincible? Well, Knull managed to kill him somehow. How? I don't know. We'll have to wait and see. We might see him again in the future and everything might be different again, because that's just how the Sentry rolls.
Personally I also believe that the Omega Beam would affect the Sentry. It would remove his consciousness for Darkseid to do whatever he wants. Would that however be the end for the Sentry? I highly doubt that. How does time affect him? We don't know. An argument can be made for Morgana Le Fay erasing him from existence by killing him as a child, before he even got his powers. Yet he came back from that out of nowhere. How did Sentry summon the bubonic plagues in old Egypt, after hearing Lindys theories on it? We know that Moses didn't have those powers. It was the Void. Did he mess with time at that point? My theory is: yes.
I wouldn't be surprised, if Darkseid banished Sentry with the Omega Beam, only for the Sentry to punch his was through time at a later point. Him exploding resulted in two dimensions being ripped open. In Marvel Zombies he punched his way into heaven, ate all the angels and then punched his way to another universe. That's how the virus spread from one universe to another in Marvel Zombies stories.
I've said it before: Do I think that even after all of this time Sentry could beat Galactus in a 1v1? I don't think so, even though there is enough evidence to suggest that on a good day he would hold his own. But Galactus is so otherworldly, that I just have a tough time seeing it. BUT... if they fought and Sentry ended up winning, I would nod and shrug at the same time. It's the Sentry. He does crazy shit. And most of the time that crazy shit happens after he has to deal with adversity: from him being burning down to an atom to him being ripped apart by the Molecule Man. He comes back and keeps going.