Originally posted by carver9
When did Superman remove those mental blocks against Zod, lol?
He had not, this is why Zod was able to do what he did to supes.
Easily broke superman's jaw. Kept bizarro as a punching bag.
destroying the probes shouldn't be a low showing for them because Poklistan Zod was just that powerful.
Originally posted by carver9
Who said anything about the showing being a low showing though. All it does is help put things into perspective that it's not just a Doomsday and Superman showing, its shared amongst other characters. And lol at people mentioning Zod showings to justify him beating 2 probes casually. While you're naming what Zod have done, also throw in what Thor have done, Hulk, Surfer... hell, throw Magneto in there. His fts pale in comparison to anyone I've named. Top tier strength/power is sufficient to drop a probe and with some, casually imo.
That... Doesn't make any sense. At all.
Originally posted by carver9
When did Superman remove those mental blocks against Zod, lol?
How many times must we tell you this? Superman only removed his mental blocks at the end of the arc, after he lost far too much. When Clark removed his limiters, he went straight for Imperiex, where he steamrolled all those probes, then DD came out and started doing the same thing. Then Imperiex came out and blast DD away with a blast of Entropy.
You claimed to have read OWAW 5 times, how can you forget such a key point to the arc?
Originally posted by carver9
Exactly
Reported.
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Anyway, I think it should also be noted that Zod had no (or.....very few?) Low feats. Superman has them, J'onn, Doomsday....they all have their low showings. But not Zod.
Saying that Zod did what Doomsday and Superman did, thus MANY MORE PEOPLE can also do the same, is BS.
Even more so when Zod is considered equal to Doomsday, lmao.
Originally posted by Diesldude
He had not, this is why Zod was able to do what he did to supes.Easily broke superman's jaw. Kept bizarro as a punching bag.
destroying the probes shouldn't be a low showing for them because Poklistan Zod was just that powerful.
So he isnt on OWAW Superman level if he didnt remove his mental blocks, right? You said he is on Superman level. If the blocks were still there, then he couldnt have been on his level. Do you agree?
Originally posted by SquallX
How many times must we tell you this? Superman only removed his mental blocks at the end of the arc, after he lost far too much. When Clark removed his limiters, he went straight for Imperiex, where he steamrolled all those probes, then DD came out and started doing the same thing. Then Imperiex came out and blast DD away with a blast of Entropy.You claimed to have read OWAW 5 times, how can you forget such a key point to the arc?
Your post is only helping me. He said that Zod and Superman were equals. If Superman wasnt fighting at his Prime against Zod, then that statement is false. Get it?
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
It really doesn't. If Zod beat two probes casually, broke Superman's jaw and kept Bizarro as a punching pet then no, those feats are well above 'top tier'.
This Zod casually broke Superman arm, outright stomped Martian Manhunter with ease, the same Manhunter who was taking on the JLA solo. Would you rank him above Herald tier?
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111153356/3744774-s6.jpg
Tread carefully with your answer. I just want you to see the flaw in your response.
Originally posted by carver9OWAW level is 'going through an army of probes like tissue paper' -- which is what OWAW Superman and OWAW Doomsday have done. Zod is at 'break Superman's jaw with a punch and beat Bizarro every day like a child until he cries' -- which is beyond herald level. Imperiex Probes mutilated the likes of Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Kyle [who in the same arc, contained the Big Bang] like redheaded stepchilds -- which makes Zod beating them far above conventional top tiers, and entering into 'angry' Superman territory [i.e. the same Superman who beat one probe with effort].
So he isnt on OWAW Superman level if he didnt remove his mental blocks, right? You said he is on Superman level. If the blocks were still there, then he couldnt have been on his level. Do you agree?
You're not saying anything substantial here.
Originally posted by carver9
This Zod casually broke Superman arm, outright stomped Martian Manhunter with ease, the same Manhunter who was taking on the JLA solo. Would you rank him above Herald tier?https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111153356/3744774-s6.jpg
Tread carefully with your answer. I just want you to see the flaw in your response.
Completely different scenario, completely different characters, completely different etc etc.
But of course you know that right?
Originally posted by carver9
This Zod casually broke Superman arm, outright stomped Martian Manhunter with ease, the same Manhunter who was taking on the JLA solo. Would you rank him above Herald tier?https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111153356/3744774-s6.jpg
Tread carefully with your answer. I just want you to see the flaw in your response.
You do know this is New 52 Zod right?
Originally posted by carver9You do know those are different Zods, Right?
This Zod casually broke Superman arm, outright stomped Martian Manhunter with ease, the same Manhunter who was taking on the JLA solo. Would you rank him above Herald tier?https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111153356/3744774-s6.jpg
Tread carefully with your answer. I just want you to see the flaw in your response.
Originally posted by carver9This is the original post you replied
To the people that asked me if I knew those are two different Zods, DUUUUHHHH. Where in my question did I say that was the same Zod. Stop avoiding my question and answer it. That's new 52 Zod. I never said that was the same Zod. Then I clearly said THIS Zod... which means a different Zod.
It really doesn't. If Zod beat two probes casually, broke Superman's jaw and kept Bizarro as a punching pet then no, those feats are well above 'top tier'.
