Originally posted by SquallXTotally false.
How many times must we tell you this? Superman only removed his mental blocks at the end of the arc, after he lost far too much. When Clark removed his limiters, he went straight for Imperiex, where he steamrolled all those probes, then DD came out and started doing the same thing. Then Imperiex came out and blast DD away with a blast of Entropy.You claimed to have read OWAW 5 times, how can you forget such a key point to the arc?
Originally posted by SquallXtotally correct 🙂
How many times must we tell you this? Superman only removed his mental blocks at the end of the arc, after he lost far too much. When Clark removed his limiters, he went straight for Imperiex, where he steamrolled all those probes, then DD came out and started doing the same thing. Then Imperiex came out and blast DD away with a blast of Entropy.You claimed to have read OWAW 5 times, how can you forget such a key point to the arc?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
This is the original post you repliedIt clearly talking about Russian zod.
I don't know what your point is to bring Classic/N52 zod assuming you do know they're different characters
It's funny to me how you're lost on why I brought up THAT Zod showing, my bad, those Zod showings. Think about it for a bit. Meditate.
Originally posted by -Pr-
It's not remotely relevant to the thread.
The reason I'm bringing it up, it kinda is. The point that I am trying to make is, Zod broke Superman arm with ease. Zod wrecked Martian Manhunter with ease. He have more beastly showings before and after this. He was treated like straight up fodder by Wonder Woman and her tier remained the same. This Wonder Woman had no low showings before or after this iirc. Nothing but high end showings but her tier remained the same. Why am I mentioning this? Lol... think about it for a sec.
Originally posted by carver9
The reason I'm bringing it up, it kinda is. The point that I am trying to make is, Zod broke Superman arm with ease. Zod wrecked Martian Manhunter with ease. He have more beastly showings before and after this. He was treated like straight up fodder by Wonder Woman and her tier remained the same. This Wonder Woman had no low showings before or after this iirc. Nothing but high end showings but her tier remained the same. Why am I mentioning this? Lol... think about it for a sec.
You said you knew they were different versions, but then you act like they're not... What's going on?
Your attempt to draw comparisons is falling quite flat, especially when trying to use Martian Manhunter of all people.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Watching Carver trying to be smart is like watching one of those dancing bears try to ride a bicycle. At first it's kinda funny, but after about ten minutes of watching it flail about and constantly fall over you just turn to your mates and ask 'is this right?'Worst stag do ever.
That's mean.
Originally posted by -Pr-
You said you knew they were different versions, but then you act like they're not... What's going on?Your attempt to draw comparisons is falling quite flat, especially when trying to use Martian Manhunter of all people.
That's mean.
I'm not using them as the same Zod though. What I'm saying is, its clearly defined imo that Russian Zod is Herald level. Beating on Bizarro, a mid Herald is a nice showing but that doesnt pull him away from being a top tier. Surfer stomped Bill's and his tier remained as is. High Heralds have good showings against lower tier characters. It happens. Also, this version of Zod DOES have low showings. My point is, Wonder Woman stomping a Zod that is full of fts did nothing to her tiering. Zod stomping Bizarro (I honestly feel like there is some context to this showing. I'll reread the book), even though it's a beastly showing, it doesnt auto put him above elite tiering. Breaking Superman bones, that's nice and all but top tiers are capable of harming each other like this. Zod is a top tier. About to read this book.
Also, if I didnt have dark on ignore, he would be getting reported right now. If you do not like my post, put me on ignore.
I do love how context is being missed out on by Carv, though.
Yes, Surfer beats Bill up. But has he EVER done it EVERY day, for months (weeks?), despite Bill fighting back? Scans.
I'm not talking about a good showing from Surfer. I am talking about EVERY single day, Surfer and Bill fighting, and EVERY single day, Surfer thrashes Bill so badly he cries, lol.
That doesn't happen. So already, the analogy fails.
Next, I do love how the OTHER scans I presented were ignored. Kelex SPECIFICALLY saying that Zod would have killed him - it was Doomsday all over again, and even if Superman had seen him coming (which, btw, he didn't), it WOULDN'T have mattered.
As carver said:
High Heralds have good showings against lower tier characters. It happens.
Originally posted by carver9How can you simply lie like this, and think I won't shit on your face and take selfies with your own phone?
My point is, Wonder Woman stomping a Zod that is full of fts
Originally posted by carver9Beating the utter shit out of Bizarro like an abusive stepfather repeatedly and for sport is above what any high-herald is capable of doing. If I keep Brock Lesnar in my basement and I just beat him every day before I go to drink my coffee, and he starts crying, it's vastly different than him losing a UFC fight.
What I'm saying is, its clearly defined imo that Russian Zod is Herald level. Beating on Bizarro, a mid Herald is a nice showing but that doesnt pull him away from being a top tier.
Beating two Imperiex Probes, when those same Imperiex Probes -- as I said -- mutilated the likes of Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Kyle [who in the same arc, contained the Big Bang] like redheaded stepchilds -- is above herald level.
Originally posted by carver9Breaking Superman's jaw in one punch and making the highly advanced kryptonian robot analyse the situation and conclude it's a Doomsday level event where Superman would die is above what any of them are capable of.
Breaking Superman bones, that's nice and all but top tiers are capable of harming each other like this.
Originally posted by carver9The only reason you're still on the forum is because you're the clown who drives traffic. The difference between you and the other clowns is that you're 40, and have been here since the early 2000s, otherwise you'd be long gone.
Also, if I didnt have dark on ignore, he would be getting reported right now. If you do not like my post, put me on ignore.
Originally posted by carver9
The reason I'm bringing it up, it kinda is. The point that I am trying to make is, Zod broke Superman arm with ease. Zod wrecked Martian Manhunter with ease. He have more beastly showings before and after this. He was treated like straight up fodder by Wonder Woman and her tier remained the same. This Wonder Woman had no low showings before or after this iirc. Nothing but high end showings but her tier remained the same. Why am I mentioning this? Lol... think about it for a sec.
Your reasoning is terribly flawed, and I'm still at a loss as to how it's relevant to this discussion. You still haven't explained that part.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I mean, Immortal Hulk was talked about being trans/Skyfather because of how he dealt with two heralds (Hercules and Thor).So why isn't Russian Zod given the same treatment? Different characters, same logic. Just like n52 Zod and Russian Zod.
Because Hulk SIMULATENOUSLY flexed off both of them at the same time while they were operating at full capacity and in the same arc they moved a whole planet. that's so hilariously above Supes and Zod.
BIZZARO is a jobber, he's nothing to brag about. Supes literally took him out with a freeze breath before.