Bloodying higher tiers is one thing. But that is NOT what is being argued here. Strawman argument.
Breaking their jaw in such a manner that a highly advanced scanner says that if it continues, that higher tier would be killed? And compares it to the time they were actually killed (so has a baseline?).
AND does it in such a manner that the 'higher tier' can't do a thing about it?
THAT is what is being argued here.
Originally posted by Philosophía
How can you simply lie like this, and think I won't shit on your face and take selfies with your own phone?Beating the utter shit out of Bizarro like an abusive stepfather repeatedly and for sport is above what any high-herald is capable of doing. If I keep Brock Lesnar in my basement and I just beat him every day before I go to drink my coffee, and he starts crying, it's vastly different than him losing a UFC fight.
Beating two Imperiex Probes, when those same Imperiex Probes -- as I said -- mutilated the likes of Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Kyle [who in the same arc, contained the Big Bang] like redheaded stepchilds -- is above herald level.
Breaking Superman's jaw in one punch and making the highly advanced kryptonian robot analyse the situation and conclude it's a Doomsday level event where Superman would die is above what any of them are capable of.
The only reason you're still on the forum is because you're the clown who drives traffic. The difference between you and the other clowns is that you're 40, and have been here since the early 2000s, otherwise you'd be long gone.
😂 this should be in the ownage thread. 😂
Originally posted by carver9🤦🏻‍♂️
This Zod casually broke Superman arm, outright stomped Martian Manhunter with ease, the same Manhunter who was taking on the JLA solo. Would you rank him above Herald tier?https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111153356/3744774-s6.jpg
Tread carefully with your answer. I just want you to see the flaw in your response.
I don't see it as a point of how powerful Russian Zod is. The point In see is that while he deals with two probes similarly to how Superman and Doomsday deal with them in space, he is never shown much above Superman. End the end, he loses a head to head, on Earth confrontation with Superman outside of OWAW and outside of "probe busting mode". This contradicts the notion tossed out by a few here that probe busting mode is a 3 to 5 times increase on strength.
To me, it's a case of a small increase yielding large results as well as the noted power inconsistencies that plague comics.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
I don't see it as a point of how powerful Russian Zod is. The point In see is that while he deals with two probes similarly to how Superman and Doomsday deal with them in space, he is never shown much above Superman. End the end, he loses a head to head, on Earth confrontation with Superman outside of OWAW and outside of "probe busting mode". This contradicts the notion tossed out by a few here that probe busting mode is a 3 to 5 times increase on strength.To me, it's a case of a small increase yielding large results as well as the noted power inconsistencies that plague comics.
He also lost their initial encounter (where Kelex is scared he'll kill Superman) and their second encounter (in space, where he's beating the crap out of Superman). The last encounter in the end, Superman has weakness exploitation on (red sun radiation).
Then there is also the Bizarro encounter, where a guy Superman doesn't exactly struggle with, but who fights quite evenly with, being broken on a daily basis for fun.
Its like Liston vs Ali...Ali won both encounters against Liston, but their first was pretty even.
Then I come around and keep Liston in my basement and beat the crap out of him every single day just to see what it feels like to punch a pro boxer. Its a world of difference.
Originally posted by TheHulksterTrue. Nobody got a power increase. Zod, DD and the other characters in OWAW had no problem killing. That's why they were chosen for the story. Superman on the other hand was held back by morals. That's why at first the probes gave him a hard time until he started fighting like the others who had zero problems killing. No power increase, just start fighting like a man and not a caring punk so to speak.
I don't see it as a point of how powerful Russian Zod is. The point In see is that while he deals with two probes similarly to how Superman and Doomsday deal with them in space, he is never shown much above Superman. End the end, he loses a head to head, on Earth confrontation with Superman outside of OWAW and outside of "probe busting mode". This contradicts the notion tossed out by a few here that probe busting mode is a 3 to 5 times increase on strength.To me, it's a case of a small increase yielding large results as well as the noted power inconsistencies that plague comics.
Originally posted by Wonder ManBeing Superman he'll find a way to win.
Sentry is a genius. He would be able to do all kinds of scientific things from the sound barrier on and upwards.
Superman is strong but Sentry can invest power molecularly and return before he leaves without even time traveling through a white hole like Captain Marvel controls.
