Thanos (MCU) vs. Doomsday (DCEU)

Originally posted by relentless1
Wonder Woman sword was magical in nature so its not just some regular sword and even still, DD was able to recover quickly and create a weapon out of the wound, Thanos on the other had was damaged by crushing, blunt force, impaling, and killed by slicing action so although very tough is susceptible to normal forms of weapon damage, DD however is not, he was killed by Kryptonite and any other weapon used on him either had no real effect or allowed him to adapt and become stronger... no way Thanos beats him without the full gauntlet tbh

WW's sword has no feats besides cutting DD. Without having any other feats or characteristics, it's pretty much useless, as quantifying it's power is impossible.

I don't understand why people lowball IM scratching Thanos. I guess people forget that the mk 6 suit was going toe to toe with Thor, and that the MK 46 suit was way superior to Bucky and Cap (Tony only lost due to him being emotionally unstable and Bucky and Cap's coordination)

And again, IM hit Thanos with the edge of his suit. An edge is highly likely to cause a cut. Also, it seems strange that people will just obmit that Thanos took the impact of an asteroid, the explosion of multiple bombs and energy attacks, and many sword lashes with 0 damage. Obmitting that due to Thanos droping a single drop of blood by IM most powerful suit just isn't okay.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
WW's sword has no feats besides cutting DD. Without having any other feats or characteristics, it's pretty much useless, as quantifying it's power is impossible.

That just means the sword is very powerful. DD has tanked a nuke, re-entry, Superman's best punches etc.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You can't compare Thor's SB with Diana's random sword.

Wanda would certainly crush DD.

I never said he would. I' defending a tie position.

It's not all about the weapon though but also the strength behind the weapon.

In any case, if Thanos doesn't have his sword then this is not an argument worth arguing. Bottomline: Thanos can get hurt with enough blunt force trauma, which means DD can eventually pummel him to death if not at least KO.

Originally posted by Psychotron
That just means the sword is very powerful. DD has tanked a nuke, re-entry, Superman's best punches etc.

The nuke had no blunt force, so, it's a heat feat.

Re Entry is impressive, but Carol also had no problem with re entry, and she wasn't even in her Binary form.

My position is that neither Thanos or DD has the power to put down each other, unless you argue that Thanos could run out of stamina.

Originally posted by FrothByte
It's not all about the weapon though but also the strength behind the weapon.

In any case, if Thanos doesn't have his sword then this is not an argument worth arguing. Bottomline: Thanos can get hurt with enough blunt force trauma, which means DD can eventually pummel him to death if not at least KO.

I could agree that literally DD would eventually come on top, as Thanos will get tired. I find that unfair as I see Thanos on top for the beginning of the fight.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I could agree that literally DD would eventually come on top, as Thanos will get tired. I find that unfair as I see Thanos on top for the beginning of the fight.

Why do you see Thanos on top?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The nuke had no blunt force, so, it's a heat feat.

Re Entry is impressive, but Carol also had no problem with re entry, and she wasn't even in her Binary form.

My position is that neither Thanos or DD has the power to put down each other, unless you argue that Thanos could run out of stamina.

Superman was unable to cause damage to DD without kryptonite. Thanos is weaker than Superman so he can't do anything to Doomsday without his sword. Doomsday, on the other hand, can definitely hurt Thanos.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Why do you see Thanos on top?

I see Thanos on top because he actually is a good fighter. Something Superman lacked.

Thanos does have the strength to meet DD. So, I see him doing the same with DD as he did with Hulk.

Although you could argue that DD is physically larger than Hulk, in terms of weight there shouldn't be a significant difference.

But, I agree DD wouldn't die to punches.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Superman was unable to cause damage to DD without kryptonite. Thanos is weaker than Superman so he can't do anything to Doomsday without his sword. Doomsday, on the other hand, can definitely hurt Thanos.

I don't think Thanos is weaker than Superman, considering he is stronger than Hulk or Thor.

Both of the above have superior feats to Superman. But I think you differ from that.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I don't think Thanos is weaker than Superman, considering he is stronger than Hulk or Thor.

Both of the above have superior feats to Superman. But I think you differ from that.

None of them have feats like overpowering the World Engine while heavily depowered, casually towing an icebreaker (easily over 50,000+ tons, may even be over 100,000 tons depending on the ship) or moving tectonic plates. Thanos has been hurt by Iron Man of all people. DD eats him.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I see Thanos on top because he actually is a good fighter. Something Superman lacked.

Thanos does have the strength to meet DD. So, I see him doing the same with DD as he did with Hulk.

Although you could argue that DD is physically larger than Hulk, in terms of weight there shouldn't be a significant difference.

But, I agree DD wouldn't die to punches.

I agree that Thanos is more skilled but I don't see where you're getting that he's as strong. He's definitely not as durable or as fast. If he engages in h2h he'll eventually lose.

Originally posted by Psychotron
None of them have feats like overpowering the World Engine while heavily depowered, casually towing an icebreaker (easily over 50,000+ tons, may even be over 100,000 tons depending on the ship) or moving tectonic plates. Thanos has been hurt by Iron Man of all people. DD eats him.

I don't consider the tectonic plate a valid feat, just like many in this forum.

Hulk moved Surtur, which is definitely heavier than an ice breaker.

The World Engine beam doesn't have drag forces.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I agree that Thanos is more skilled but I don't see where you're getting that he's as strong. He's definitely not as durable or as fast. If he engages in h2h he'll eventually lose.

Read my reply to Psichotron.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I don't consider the tectonic plate a valid feat, just like many in this forum.

Hulk moved Surtur, which is definitely heavier than an ice breaker.

The World Engine beam doesn't have drag forces.

I don't care what you consider valid. It was stated on screen.

That didn't happen. Surtur reacted the same way a human does when a fly lands on his head. When Hulk started punching him he didn't move at all.

Prove it.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I don't care what you consider valid. It was stated on screen.

That didn't happen. Surtur reacted the same way a human does when a fly lands on his head. When Hulk started punching him he didn't move at all.

Prove it.

Newspapares aren't always literal, and most time exaggerate stuff. And we didn't saw what Superman did exactly.

When a fly lands on your face, you flinch due to getting surprised. You don't get swayed. And, Hulk moved Surtur by falling on it and punching it (a combintation of the force of his body and arms). The second hits were only due to his arms.

It's an energy beam, energy doesn't have mass, ergo doesn't carry force.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Read my reply to Psichotron.

I don't really consider the World Engine feat to be that great, and I don't consider newspaper articles as valid feats either. But Superman carried an entire building for a prolonged duration. That's not a feat that Hulk or Thanos can match.

And again, Thanos has no durability and speed feats to match DD.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I don't really consider the World Engine feat to be that great, and I don't consider newspaper articles as valid feats either. But Superman carried an entire building for a prolonged duration. That's not a feat that Hulk or Thanos can match.

And again, Thanos has no durability and speed feats to match DD.

Well, Hulk moved Surtur (Which is at least 10x) bigger than that building.

Regarding speed, Superman didn't had the speedblizing ability as of yet.

I think DD is faster than Thanos, but not fast enough to render him a statue.

Regarding durability, that's what I mean, DD would eventually defeat Thanos due to his endless durability. But, Thanos would likely come on top for sometime, until he grows tired.

I'm not saying that Thanos would stomp DD, but he is just a better fighter, and has the strength and durability overcome him for sometime.

Doomsday
Thanos

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Well, Hulk moved Surtur (Which is at least 10x) bigger than that building.

Regarding speed, Superman didn't had the speedblizing ability as of yet.

I think DD is faster than Thanos, but not fast enough to render him a statue.

Regarding durability, that's what I mean, DD would eventually defeat Thanos due to his endless durability. But, Thanos would likely come on top for sometime, until he grows tired.

I'm not saying that Thanos would stomp DD, but he is just a better fighter, and has the strength and durability overcome him for sometime.

Hulk moved Surtur for an instant. Superman carried that building for a prolonged duration. See the difference?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Newspapares aren't always literal, and most time exaggerate stuff. And we didn't saw what Superman did exactly.

When a fly lands on your face, you flinch due to getting surprised. You don't get swayed. And, Hulk moved Surtur by falling on it and punching it (a combintation of the force of his body and arms). The second hits were only due to his arms.

It's an energy beam, energy doesn't have mass, ergo doesn't carry force.

It was in this case.

Exactly. Surtur was just surprised by this ugly green mutant landing on his head. Hulk's punches proved 100% ineffective. Also, Superman CASUALLY pulled that Icebreaker, which is bigger than Surtur's head btw, and also CASUALLY carried and apartment complex.

Go back to school. Mass IS energy.