Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well for a start in your scan, Odin doesn't have Gungnir lmao.
DS, in that particular comic, Odin barely assaults the Surfer, and Max and he nearly kills them. This is one of the reasons that I can't see him no selling it. Thanos on the other hand is extremely resistant to magic which is another reason. Superman himself says that he's vulnerable to magic is a third reason. I understand why you're saying that he can, because he has, but just not most of the time.
Originally posted by Stoic
DS, in that particular comic, Odin barely assaults the Surfer, and Max and he nearly kills them. This is one of the reasons that I can't see him no selling it. Thanos on the other hand is extremely resistant to magic which is another reason. Superman himself says that he's vulnerable to magic is a third reason. I understand why you're saying that he can, because he has, but just not most of the time.
👆. Agreed with all points. All am saying is that it's perfectly feasible to say that he can, based on his high showings (and another reason why I said we should use his high showings, because I personally viewed what Thanos did as a high showing for Thanos, given Odin's power levels at the time of the comic).
It's simple.
Odin is a premier Skyfather. Primero Uno in Marvel, and in DC (ignoring abhi's hate boner which means he prob views Odin as a street tier lol.
Thanos lost to him - but only slightly. They were trading blows, duking it out, he was wading through Odin's Gungnir blasts. In other words, in this comic, Thanos had a high end showing.
No one can dispute that. It is definitely not a low end showing for Thanos or Odin (lmao), and it's not an average showing for Thanos (otherwise you all are saying on average Thanos is equal to the highest end Skyfather).
If we used Thanos' low showings, like some in this thread are doing for Superman, then no, Thanos can't do what Thanos did in that comic. If we used his AVERAGE showings, Thanos can't do what Thanos did. Imagine War Machine, or random spears/axes etc.*
We must use his high showings.
And so, we should use Superman's high end showings. Which say that yes, he can replicate Thanos' performance here.
*Please don't spam me with context this and context that, I am fully aware of them. My point is that we shouldn't use low showings as proof.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I asked if Superman can replicate what Thanos did.
So for you to ask this, then only post low showings of Superman, shows you both don't understand junior high level English (or you would have worded it differently, unless you're just lying) and you have a hate boner for Superman. Maybe that's why you're looking to have sub junior high level English, not enough blood flow to the brain. Not that there's much for blood to fill, but I digress.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
before he became an AOD, he was a Prime Eternal (after beating his father). Prime Eternals are near or at Skyfather level when they go all out.
Even assuming what you say is true, being 'near or at' Skyfather level, especially when going all out, =/= being near the highest of the high Skyfathers. So my point still stands.
Except that Thanos resisted forces that were greater than what Galactus can hit with. It hurt him, but he was able to rise from the assault. I'm referring to his run-in with Omega the Cosmic Thanosi (I think that was his name?). Unless weakened, Thanos has always been one of the most all around durable characters in comics.
Originally posted by Stoic
Except that Thanos resisted forces that were greater than what Galactus can hit with. It hurt him, but he was able to rise from the assault. I'm referring to his run-in with Omega the Cosmic Thanosi (I think that was his name?). Unless weakened, Thanos has always been one of the most all around durable characters in comics.
Not disagreeing - but so what?
Does this mean, IYO, that he's just below the highest Skyfather in Marvel on average? Think of ALL his showings, not just high - his lows, too. Does that average out to being on 1990s Odin level?
IOW - is this showing an AVERAGE showing for Thanos (taking into account his lows, being arrested by the NYPD and all lol).
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
That's a normal showing for Thanos.
It can't be. You said yourself that when going all out, he'd only be near or at Skyfather level.
Whereas Odin is sitting pretty at the top. He'd beat the crap out of the lower rungs of that tier, any character at the top of the pile would do the same with the bottom. And this would be Thanos when he's going all out, and ignoring all his low showings.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85IOW - is this showing an AVERAGE showing for Thanos (taking into account his lows, being arrested by the NYPD and all lol).
Wasn't that non Canon? Or is there a canon comic where that happens? I actually wouldn't be surprised if it happened in canon. Cocaine is a Helluva drug.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I'm talking durability wise, Thanos literally tanked a galaxy busting attack on his death bed.
So you are saying he has no low showings, durability wise?
Originally posted by Delta1938
I don't know about random barbarian but a random space mercenary cut him with an axe. Maybe both happened?
That's the one! Anyway, like I said - a low showing which would be ignored.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not disagreeing - but so what?Does this mean, IYO, that he's just below the highest Skyfather in Marvel [b]on average
? Think of ALL his showings, not just high - his lows, too. Does that average out to being on 1990s Odin level?IOW - is this showing an AVERAGE showing for Thanos (taking into account his lows, being arrested by the NYPD and all lol). [/B]
The arrested by the NYPD wasn't canon lol. But unless in a weakened state, like he was during Annihilation, Thanos' power levels were always on the rise. Before gaining the power of TOAA, Starlin was going to place him at levels that were above Sky Father. I always saw him as having universal level durability. I would've definitely given him the win over Odin in his later showings when he had the power to summon the dead while battling Annihulk. This was all a part of Starlin's plan. You didn't notice that Thanos got several upgrades over the past 25yrs?