Can Superman match this feat

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil9 pages

I'm saying Superman isn't Thanos, Thanos is resistant to magic, Superman isn't. Thanos IS THAT durable, Superman isn't. Re read Dambo and my scans, They were posted for a reason. There's too many instances of magic overwhelming superman, I would spam some but im out. Also Marvel's version of Odin is > than DC's, magic works differently in the MU, and Rune Magic can actually affect those that are supposedly immune to magic.

Even in JLA/Avengers, it showed that magic works very differently in DC than it does in Marvel.

In DC, there are very few Rune Magic users. Lucifer is one of them. In Marvel, standard Asgardian Magic is based on Rune Magic. That's what makes it so powerful compared to the magic used by guys like Dr. Strange or Mordu. Rune Magic uses the "True Name" of the target/object/person it's cast on to change, destroy, transmute, drain, etc. the target. It bypasses all forms of Magic Resistance.

Originally posted by Stoic
The arrested by the NYPD wasn't canon lol. But unless in a weakened state, like he was during Annihilation, Thanos' power levels were always on the rise. Before gaining the power of TOAA, Starlin was going to place him at levels that were above Sky Father. I always saw him as having universal level durability. I would've definitely given him the win over Odin in his later showings when he had the power to summon the dead while battling Annihulk. This was all a part of Starlin's plan. You didn't notice that Thanos got several upgrades over the past 25yrs?

But I am talking about the time Odin faced Thanos, in 1994 (think the space merc showing was around that time). And even if your point was pertinent (about the 25 years of upgrades), War Machine and BP still managed to hurt him.

My point is still standing. Thanos' lows drag his average down, to the point that we can't say he's just below 1990s top-tier Odin level. That showing with Odin is a high end showing for Thanos, a good showing.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I'm saying Superman isn't Thanos, Thanos is resistant to magic, Superman isn't. Thanos IS THAT durable, Superman isn't. Re read Dambo and my scans, They were posted for a reason. There's too many instances of magic overwhelming superman, I would spam some but im out. Also Marvel's version of Odin is > than DC's, magic works differently in the MU, and Rune Magic can actually affect those that are supposedly immune to magic.

Even in JLA/Avengers, it showed that magic works very differently in DC than it does in Marvel.

In DC, there are very few Rune Magic users. Lucifer is one of them. In Marvel, standard Asgardian Magic is based on Rune Magic. That's what makes it so powerful compared to the magic used by guys like Dr. Strange or Mordu. Rune Magic uses the "True Name" of the target/object/person it's cast on to change, destroy, transmute, drain, etc. the target. It bypasses all forms of Magic Resistance.

Thanos has been hurt by far less than what Odin did. THAT'S my point. You using average or low showings for Superman and a high showing for Thanos is wrong, both for you and Dambo.

It's a high end showing for Thanos, so we should use high end showings for Superman.

Edited for clarity.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But I am talking about the time Odin faced Thanos, in 1994 (think the space merc showing was around that time). And even if your point was pertinent (about the 25 years of upgrades), War Machine and BP still managed to hurt him.

My point is still standing. Thanos' lows drag his average down, to the point that we can't say he's just below 1990s top-tier Odin level. That showing with Odin is a high end showing for Thanos, a good showing.

True. The idea that Thanos was affected by those guys does lower his durability rating significantly.

It's a showing for Thanos regardless, that doesn't apply to Supes. Supes need to show that he can TANK that level of magic from a High tier Odin level being without being amped or sort. JLA/Avengers alone debunks the notion that Superman "PoWeRs" through it

Let's use Thor. He rarely uses Rune Magic, he knows enough of it to actually use it to beat guys that have beaten and/or wrecked opponents like Supes (in that instance it was Terminus). Thor specifically used it against an amped up version of Terminus (the one w/ 4 or more arms). Base Terminus EASILY wrecked/beat Supes even though GL, WW, Aquaman, and other JL members were teaming up against Terminus. The weapons systems of Terminus' armor and lance are so advanced that they can etch words on Earth's moon while Terminus us several hundred light years away.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It's a showing for Thanos regardless, that doesn't apply to Supes. Supes need to show that he can TANK that level of magic from a High tier Odin level being without being amped or sort. JLA/Avengers alone debunks the notion that Superman "PoWeRs" through it

See Abhi's scans.

And again you're using low/average showings.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I'm saying Superman isn't Thanos, Thanos is resistant to magic, Superman isn't. Thanos IS THAT durable, Superman isn't. Re read Dambo and my scans, They were posted for a reason. There's too many instances of magic overwhelming superman, I would spam some but im out. Also Marvel's version of Odin is > than DC's, magic works differently in the MU, and Rune Magic can actually affect those that are supposedly immune to magic.

Even in JLA/Avengers, it showed that magic works very differently in DC than it does in Marvel.

In DC, there are very few Rune Magic users. Lucifer is one of them. In Marvel, standard Asgardian Magic is based on Rune Magic. That's what makes it so powerful compared to the magic used by guys like Dr. Strange or Mordu. Rune Magic uses the "True Name" of the target/object/person it's cast on to change, destroy, transmute, drain, etc. the target. It bypasses all forms of Magic Resistance.

So first off you never had honest intent about the topic. You just wanted to rub your Superman hate hard on. Otherwise you wouldn't be focusing on low showings and would acknowledge his feats. But you yourself brought up JLA/AVENGERS and how magick is treated differently.....it was straight up said magick in DC is more powerful.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/JLrZdb-T8rqHBMB9VvXOFHg3l4Q7wN_5DXnJz4rkRAJmsmwRQpFQbXHp_DE_f_a_J8JSR-aPflbS=s1600

So you rag on Superman's poor showings against magick then bring up a comic that says it's more powerful in DC to.....prove your point?

This is Thor on Earth's Moon using Rune Magic to restrain that version of Terminus that was on Earth btw:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6qna8kJy_ic/Ttvb4uIR1YI/AAAAAAAAKAA/oII3tVigbN0/s1600/term%2Bav%2B3.jpg?fbclid=IwAR0S3HeCiJUuC-BOBMSRc_5rV9yvJ3xEH0lq0YlgB2Ngz0Az2VkDueRVccM

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Let's use Thor. He rarely uses Rune Magic, he knows enough of it to actually use it to beat guys that have beaten and/or wrecked opponents like Supes (in that instance it was Terminus). Thor specifically used it against an amped up version of Terminus (the one w/ 4 or more arms). Base Terminus EASILY wrecked/beat Supes even though GL, WW, Aquaman, and other JL members were teaming up against Terminus. The weapons systems of Terminus' armor and lance are so advanced that they can etch words on Earth's moon while Terminus us several hundred light years away.

Irrelevant.

You have to ignore EVERY single showing of magic affecting Superman, and ONLY use showings where he's tanking magic.

Only if there are ZERO showings, can you say that he can't tank magic. Because the question is CAN he, not WILL he.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
😂 at the anti superman brigade saying he gets flattened. Like most have said if the magic vulnerability comes into play he gets hurt but not much. Without that Superman tanks it like Thanos did.

Words of wisdom, Alberto and JBL are hiding from these points

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Irrelevant.

You have to ignore EVERY single showing of magic affecting Superman, and ONLY use showings where he's tanking magic.

Only if there are ZERO showings, can you say that he can't tank magic. Because the question is CAN he, not WILL he.

Were those magic on Odin level?
Were they RUNE magic?

To use my fav analogies, boxers:

CAN Tyson in his prime beat Ali(in his prime)? Sure, it's definitely possible. Can't really debate that. Low chance, perhaps, IYO, but he can do it.

WOULD he? Ah, now THAT'S debatable.

So as per the thread, CAN Superman do it? Yes, of course he can.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
To use my fav analogies, boxers:

CAN Tyson in his prime beat Ali(in his prime)? Sure, it's definitely possible. Can't really debate that. Low chance, perhaps, IYO, but he can do it.

WOULD he? Ah, now THAT'S debatable.

So as per the thread, CAN Superman do it? Yes, of course he can.

Off topic a bit, but Ali said that Tyson in his prime would've probably beaten him in his prime.

Originally posted by Stoic
Off topic a bit, but Ali said that Tyson in his prime would've probably beaten him in his prime.

👆

IOW, he CAN, doesn't mean he WOULD.

As it is in this thread. Superman CAN, doesn't mean he would.

How is boxing relevant to this topic?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
How is boxing relevant to this topic?

So you don't comprehend analogies too.

Originally posted by Delta1938
So you don't comprehend analogies too.

He’s a moron

😂 😂 It's always great to have obsessed comic weirdos on my wave. 😎 😎 unfortunately big dogs don't acknowledge lesser pups. Maybe when You start getting stuff right i'll DECIDE if your worth ALBERTOS time child

I notice that's what it comes with when you're right like majority of the time, keep talking about me LMFAO make me continue to debunk the super wank

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil

😂 😂 It's always great to have obsessed comic weirdos on my wave. 😎 😎 unfortunately big dogs don't acknowledge lesser pups. Maybe when You start getting stuff right i'll DECIDE if your worth ALBERTOS time child

I notice that's what it comes with when you're right like majority of the time, keep talking about me LMFAO make me continue to debunk the super wank

You said I was just doing ad hominem when I asked if you're autistic. I was asking a legitimate question. This response is one of the reasons I believe you are. You have such arrogance and think you're so great at debating despite being such a subpar debater. You're like someone who because he's allowed in neighborhood watch, you suddenly think you're a top Delta Force Operator. I can only think of such a high level of confidence while utterly oblivious to your lack of skill as you're from the Participation Trophy generation..... except you're too old. Well I doubt they started giving participation trophies to normal kids, so.....

And I pointed out you don't understand analogies. You ignore it, maybe because you realize you don't. If you understood what analogies were, something we start being taught in preschool, you wouldn't ask why boxing is relevant to the topic. Boxing itself isn't, just this particular example of a hypothetical matchup was brought up because it's an analogy to explain how utterly failed you've been in your own thread. Whether it was made dishonestly or you just don't understand what "can" means, you omega drone.