Originally posted by dadudemon
Do you have a primary source for that?Because that seems like very stupid logic. Doing anything at all to show he is on top of things and a strong leader would have helped his reelection bid.
But, but...that is Trump.
Trump quite literally argued that he didn't want the cruise ship that was floating outside of the Golden Gate in California to dock, because that would 'bring his numbers of infected up', because if Americans are infected on a boat, they somehow don't count to the total.
Originally posted by Robtard
Trump quite literally argued that he didn't want the cruise ship that was floating outside of the Golden Gate in California to dock, because that would 'bring his numbers of infected up', because if Americans are infected on a boat, they somehow don't count to the total.
Do you have a primary source for that? Because that also seems dumb as shit for Trump to say.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Do you have a primary source for that? Because that also seems dumb as shit for Trump to say.
@ddm "I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault." -Trump via Fox News interview, during the time when we only have few covid-19 cases
He's also said similar in a WH press briefing around that time, that's where I heard him iirc.
edit: Jaden ninja'd me it seems.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
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Originally posted by Robtard
@ddm "I like the numbers being where they are. I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault." -Trump via Fox News interview, during the time when we only have few covid-19 casesHe's also said similar in a WH press briefing around that time, that's where I heard him iirc.
edit: Jaden ninja'd me it seems.
Thanks. So not as bad as Robtard originally made it out to be but still bad.
He's such a buffoon. I could understand if he said, "...released onto American soil to infect others in the population - I like the numbers where they are..."
But he didn't.
The Comprehensive Timeline of China’s COVID-19 Lies
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/chinas-devastating-lies/amp/
Originally posted by Nibedicus
The Comprehensive Timeline of China’s COVID-19 Lieshttps://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/chinas-devastating-lies/amp/
"Clearly, the U.S. government's response to this threat was not nearly robust enough, and not enacted anywhere near quickly enough." -snip
"Robust enough"? LoL. We had Trump lying and gaslighting the country for over two months, before he flipped and declared a national emergency. Over two months wasted that could have been used to prepare and stockpile supplies.
Should probably do one of Trump and his covid-19 lies at some point:
'In a few days we will be down to almost zero cases.'
'We have covid-19 contained.'
'This is their new hoax.'
Originally posted by Robtard
"Clearly, the U.S. government's response to this threat was not nearly robust enough, and not enacted anywhere near quickly enough." -snip"Robust enough"? LoL. We had Trump lying and gaslighting the country for over two months, before he flipped and declared a national emergency. Over two months wasted that could have been used to prepare and stockpile supplies.
Should probably do one of Trump and his covid-19 lies at some point:
'In a few days we will be down to almost zero cases.'
'We have covid-19 contained.'
'This is their new hoax.'
There's like....2 different realities involved in this COVID-19 bullshit.
There's the truth. The actual reality. Where:
1. We likely have greater than 50% of the population already exposed to COVID-19
2. 90%+ of the people are asymptomatic once they "contract" COVID-19.
3. Less than .1% of people exposed to COVID-19 require hospitalization and over that .1%, even fewer die.
4. Of the people who do die with COVID-19 found in their bodies, 57% of other diseases present that are just as likely if not more likely to have killed them, which is inflating the COVID-19 mortality attributions.
Then there's this mass hysteria reality. A fantasy reality of falsehoods. Where:
1. COVID-19 is being touted as having a mortality rate of 2%-5%
2. We need to lock down the population in very strict ways to prevent the people from being exposed to COVID-19 to greatly reduce the deaths to not overburden our hospitals. This is because it is believed that only a small portion of the population have been exposed and if more get exposed, we will kill anywhere from 3-10 million Americans.
3. We need to be locked down for months to prevent this spread to save millions of lives.
4. Anyone who objects to these top 3 are considered gaslighters, tin-foil hat hoax-callers calling this hysteria a conspiracy theory.
5. Trump and any leader who downplayed this are "bad" and "stupid."
6. Costing the world economy trillions in lost productivity, destroying working-class people's lives by a billion or more people, and causing damage to the economy that may last up to 20 years, is all worth it.
And as the data keeps pouring in and it matches closer and closer to my projections made weeks ago, I get more and more confirmation of how retarded and hysterical everyone is being about this.
We have math. We have modeling. We have testing criteria we can use for infectious diseases to determine infection vectors and the strength of this microbe. There's no reason at all we cannot calm this hysteria and bring everyone back to reality. We will likely see many suicides, violence, and homicides related to this stress and sheltering in place from this hysteria. Perhaps more lives will be lost than saved because of this.
Originally posted by Robtard
Any leader who downplayed this early on is indeed at fault. If we're blaming China for their shit antics and lies early on, why excuse other leaders.
Your premise is faulty to begin with.
Your premise assumes that this was a serious enough situation that we needed to do literally anything at a national level.
We didn't.
This is not a pandemic. It doesn't even come close to meeting the criteria. And the "experts" involved with this knew that. We had bad data and poor testing which resulted in terribly overblown mortality statistics. Now that we are able to do better research, we can clearly see that this is far less deadly than we were led to believe.
Change the entire premise of your argument.
If this was not very deadly to begin with, why is there even a conversation happening at the national level regarding this? Why are we even talking about leadership responses to an illness that has a hospitalization rate of less than 1 in 1000? More people die daily from norovirus and require hospitalization for it. TB is far worse. Should not the discussion be moved to the problems with Mass Media and social media causing inappropriate hysteria and economic losses? From the beginning, the media had a responsibility to caution ALL discussions of deaths with a, "This is, again, only a subset of a subset of people and experts caution us that true mortality rates are far less than we we have available."?
Originally posted by Robtard
Maybe the premise you're making and applying to me is.This is also avoiding that leaders lied, if China's to blame for lying, so are other world leaders.
I think China may not have lied as much as was claimed. They may very well have told the truth. It may be even less "bad" than China thinks, too.