MCU Hela vs DCEU Superman

Originally posted by NemeBro
I legitimately can't think of a single instance of Loki using telekinesis, and Thor hasn't used whirlwinds since Thor 1 that I can recall.

Diana probably has more super speed showings in her solo movie alone than Thor and Loki have whirlwind and telekinesis showings throughout the entire MCU. 🙂

"B-but she doesn't have the slow motion or super blurry speedy lines when she fights Luddendorf" lmao. 👇

Originally posted by NemeBro
The slack-jawed boomer has spoken. 👆

🙂

Originally posted by NemeBro
I legitimately can't think of a single instance of Loki using telekinesis, and Thor hasn't used whirlwinds since Thor 1 that I can recall.

Diana probably has more super speed showings in her solo movie alone than Thor and Loki have whirlwind and telekinesis showings throughout the entire MCU. 🙂

"B-but she doesn't have the slow motion or super blurry speedy lines when she fights Luddendorf" lmao. 👇

Loki used TK in TDW.

Also, Diana only seems to use her superspeed against bullets and that one time against soldiers at the end of her movie. I don't recall her actually using it in h2h combat against a decent opponent other than an odd shoulder bash. I certainly don't recall her evading hits at superspeed or delivering multiple hits at superspeed.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I'll do that once she starts using it consistently in a fight. There's a reason why I don't claim that Thor can spam whirlwinds in a fight or that Loki can launch telekinetic attacks. Because they don't do them consistently as well.

You cried when you thought I insulted you when I really didnt besides saying you were frothing at the mouth, which was a play on words, but Neme straight up called you a retard and you didn't bat an eyelash, so what gives? Where you just trying to take advantage of trying to play the victim card and you thought I might feel sorry, and your not doing that card with Neme because you know he wouldn't care in the slightest.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Are you saying Cyborg has superspeed as well?

As for Diana, nothing in that scene indicated she was using her superspeed other. Superman still blitzed her. Slow motion effects weren't used. She didn't blur either. In fact, you'd be hard put to find feats of Diana actually using superspeed in combat against skilled, superpowered fighters.

But hey, tell you what. If I agreed to not use Hela's Mjolnir crush feat since it's an outlier, would you then agree to not use Superman's ability to dodge Steppenwolf's attack with such ease because it's also an outlier?

Or will you agree that Superman is as fast as that scene indicated at all times and assume that Hela is also as strong as she was depicted in the Mjolnir scene at all times?

Originally posted by FrothByte
So you're specifically admitting that you were on this board prior to registering as BrolyBlack in May 2018?

Quit dodging and name Helas powers..then name Supermans.

I fcking truly dare you.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The slack-jawed pussy has spoken. 👆

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Plenty of speedsters use speedblitzing. Smallville Clark did this to people all the time.

It doesn't happen as often, but superman in the comics blitzes people too.

The very version of Superman in this thread participated in a fight at super speed with another speedster. Everything else was in slow motion to them. Including another being that at the very least is a casual bullet timer.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Are you saying Cyborg has superspeed as well?

As for Diana, nothing in that scene indicated she was using her superspeed other. Superman still blitzed her. Slow motion effects weren't used. She didn't blur either. In fact, you'd be hard put to find feats of Diana actually using superspeed in combat against skilled, superpowered fighters.

But hey, tell you what. If I agreed to not use Hela's Mjolnir crush feat since it's an outlier, would you then agree to not use Superman's ability to dodge Steppenwolf's attack with such ease because it's also an outlier?

Or will you agree that Superman is as fast as that scene indicated at all times and assume that Hela is also as strong as she was depicted in the Mjolnir scene at all times?

So, you see these characters consistently use super-speed but you need it to be depicted in every scene they're using it with slow-mo? Lol, friend.

And yeah, the full capacity rule is what I always advocated for since the beginning. Are you reading me? 😬

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Does Cyborg even have any anti-feat regarding speed?

So, you see these characters consistently use super-speed but you need it to be depicted in every scene they're using it with slow-mo? Lol, friend.

And yeah, the full capacity rule is what I always advocated for since the beginning. Are you reading me? 😬

Well yes. If you want to claim a character has a certain skill/superpower, they actually need an on-screen feat that shows them doing it. Kinda silly to think that we can randomly assign powers to a character when they've never demonstrated it. You want to claim Cyborg has super speed, you need to show a feat where he displays superspeed. You don't ask someone to prove that he doesn't have superspeed.

Anyway, using your full capacity rule then this ends in a draw. Hela will never touch Superman and Superman can never output enough damage to take out Hela. /thread

This Superman is a dick though so he might let her briefly touch him to give her a false sense of security.

Then he twists her head off her body.

I'm using some hyperbole there lol just to be clear. But no he has a virtual eternity to act here without any fear of retaliation. Thor didn't have that. Nobody who fought her did.

And she can shrug off piercing damage but probably not dismemberment.

^^^CBR bloodlust out of character debate style? Cute.

The Superman fanboys can’t stomach a loss, obviously.

And so I laugh (haha) and leave this thread (bye).

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Does Cyborg even have any anti-feat regarding speed?

So, you see these characters consistently use super-speed but you need it to be depicted in every scene they're using it with slow-mo? Lol, friend.

And yeah, the full capacity rule is what I always advocated for since the beginning. Are you reading me? 😬

Originally posted by riv6672
^^^CBR bloodlust out of character debate style? Cute.

The Superman fanboys can’t stomach a loss, obviously.

And so I laugh (haha) and leave this thread (bye).

We aren't writing comics here they are just fighting. Why have them hold back especially if doing so would result in death? "Superman loses cuz he is too stupid to utilize his super powers". How many victory laps should Hela take over this?

Originally posted by Surtur
We aren't writing comics here they are just fighting. Why have them hold back especially if doing so would result in death? "Superman loses cuz he is too stupid to utilize his super powers". How many victory laps should Hela take over this?

It's definitely correct to say he fails to properly utilize his powers to the full extent of their abilities, like 99.9999% of comic book characters.

Originally posted by Surtur
It's definitely correct to say he fails to properly utilize his powers to the full extent of their abilities, like 99.9999% of comic book characters.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well yes. If you want to claim a character has a certain skill/superpower, they actually need an on-screen feat that shows them doing it. Kinda silly to think that we can randomly assign powers to a character when they've never demonstrated it. You want to claim Cyborg has super speed, you need to show a feat where he displays superspeed. You don't ask someone to prove that he doesn't have superspeed.

Anyway, using your full capacity rule then this ends in a draw. Hela will never touch Superman and Superman can never output enough damage to take out Hela. /thread

Better luck next time.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
It's not silly. Cyborg hitting Superman could be interpreted as a super speed showing after all. 👆

Which is not my point anyway, as I'm not trying to assign super speed to Cyborg but simply that we don't know pretty much anything about his powers to call that a low showing for Supes, considering the rest of the movie. Lol friend.

Too bad durability doesn't scale with strength. Specially in Hela's case. 🙂

Better luck next time.

Hi Quan!

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Hi Quan!