Originally posted by FrothByteIf you see Hela under his biggest strength feat's light, she shouldn't have struggled with Thor nearly as much as she did. But not even with her whole army was she able to take the revengers down. That's a pretty big contradiction if you ask me tbh.
Because the Revengers are living combatants capable of fighting back, using tactics, dodging and defending and changing directions. Plus all of them are each extremely strong in their own right.In the end, the most you can say about Hela is that her feats didn't show her full capacity but it didn't contradict her strength level. Superman's feats contradicted his, and you're actively asking him to fight in a manner he has never portrayed before.
And Superman *has* been portrayed to use speed during combat in his most recent, mature portrayal. Not a good argument specially considering this forum's rules.
Btw it's pretty funny that when it suits you, neither Diana nor Cyborg were using their full speed against Clark but when talking about Hela's blade piercing Thor, you have no problem using his single most outlying feat. Are you serious, friend?
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
If you see Hela under his biggest strength feat's light, she shouldn't have struggled with Thor nearly as much as she did. But not even with her whole army was she able to take them down. That's a pretty big contradiction if you ask me tbh.And Superman *has* been portrayed to use speed during combat in his most recent, mature portrayal.
Btw it's pretty funny that when it suits you, neither Diana nor Cyborg were using their full speed but when talking about Hela's blade piercing Thor, you have no problem using his single most outlying feat. Are you serious, friend?
Are you saying Cyborg has superspeed as well?
As for Diana, nothing in that scene indicated she was using her superspeed other. Superman still blitzed her. Slow motion effects weren't used. She didn't blur either. In fact, you'd be hard put to find feats of Diana actually using superspeed in combat against skilled, superpowered fighters.
But hey, tell you what. If I agreed to not use Hela's Mjolnir crush feat since it's an outlier, would you then agree to not use Superman's ability to dodge Steppenwolf's attack with such ease because it's also an outlier?
Or will you agree that Superman is as fast as that scene indicated at all times and assume that Hela is also as strong as she was depicted in the Mjolnir scene at all times?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Are you saying Cyborg has superspeed as well?As for Diana, nothing in that scene indicated she was using her superspeed other. Superman still blitzed her. Slow motion effects weren't used. She didn't blur either. In fact, you'd be hard put to find feats of Diana actually using superspeed in combat against skilled, superpowered fighters.
But hey, tell you what. If I agreed to not use Hela's Mjolnir crush feat since it's an outlier, would you then agree to not use Superman's ability to dodge Steppenwolf's attack with such ease because it's also an outlier?
Or will you agree that Superman is as fast as that scene indicated at all times and assume that Hela is also as strong as she was depicted in the Mjolnir scene at all times?
Do you even know what Helas powers are? If so, please list them, then list Supermans, without leaving some out or lowballing them.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Btw it's pretty funny that when it suits you, neither Diana nor Cyborg were using their full speed against Clark but when talking about Hela's blade piercing Thor, you have no problem using his single most outlying feat. Are you serious, friend?
Im glad Im not the only one who see's this, however I think he is incapable of seeing it through the log in his own eye.
Originally posted by FrothByteOnly if you stop being a retard and accept Diana's speed at all times. 👆 🙂
Are you saying Cyborg has superspeed as well?As for Diana, nothing in that scene indicated she was using her superspeed other. Superman still blitzed her. Slow motion effects weren't used. She didn't blur either. In fact, you'd be hard put to find feats of Diana actually using superspeed in combat against skilled, superpowered fighters.
But hey, tell you what. If I agreed to not use Hela's Mjolnir crush feat since it's an outlier, would you then agree to not use Superman's ability to dodge Steppenwolf's attack with such ease because it's also an outlier?
Or will you agree that Superman is as fast as that scene indicated at all times and assume that Hela is also as strong as she was depicted in the Mjolnir scene at all times?
Originally posted by NemeBro
Only if you stop being a retard and accept Diana's speed at all times. 👆 🙂
I'll do that once she starts using it consistently in a fight. There's a reason why I don't claim that Thor can spam whirlwinds in a fight or that Loki can launch telekinetic attacks. Because they don't do them consistently as well.
Originally posted by FrothByte
I'll do that once she starts using it consistently in a fight. There's a reason why I don't claim that Thor can spam whirlwinds in a fight or that Loki can launch telekinetic attacks. Because they don't do them consistently as well.
Not to mention ACTUAL sperspeedsters don’t even fight the way these PPL claim a character w. superspeed does in their imaginations.
Originally posted by FrothByteI legitimately can't think of a single instance of Loki using telekinesis, and Thor hasn't used whirlwinds since Thor 1 that I can recall.
I'll do that once she starts using it consistently in a fight. There's a reason why I don't claim that Thor can spam whirlwinds in a fight or that Loki can launch telekinetic attacks. Because they don't do them consistently as well.
Diana probably has more super speed showings in her solo movie alone than Thor and Loki have whirlwind and telekinesis showings throughout the entire MCU. 🙂
"B-but she doesn't have the slow motion or super blurry speedy lines when she fights Luddendorf" lmao. 👇