MCU Hela vs DCEU Superman

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Originally posted by h1a8
It was heat from the star focused in a beam. Not the stars total energy (since the star still exists and didn't get exhausted and will continue to exist for eons more and was shining all other directions while the beam was emitted. ).

IOW, same principle as me with a magnifying glass on a hot day, only bigger.

Originally posted by h1a8
It was heat from the star focused in a beam. Not the stars total energy (since the star still exists and didn't get exhausted and will continue to exist for eons more and was shining all other directions while the beam was emitted. ).

He says "full force of a star".

https://streamable.com/xylem

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He says "full force of a star".

https://streamable.com/xylem

Hyperbole, if it was the full force or energy of the star it would no longer be there. 🙂

The best you can say is that it was the luminosity of the star directed through that point on and past Thor.

Superman’s speed is his only advantage. He can’t do anything to put her down permanently . In the end she’d win.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He says "full force of a star".

https://streamable.com/xylem

The full force that a star can give in a concentrated beam.

Obviously not a supernova. Since it never actually went supernova.

Superman would destroy giant Surtur too.

What trash. A statement is hyperbole but a newspaper clippings is somehow usable. Superman has zero onscreen feats of doing anything to a tectonic plate. It is completely unusable.

So Cyborg has planetary level durability? Because he took the exact same hit as Clark and got up minutes later. And it didn't even really make a crater or anything

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
What trash. A statement is hyperbole but a newspaper clippings is somehow usable. Superman has zero onscreen feats of doing anything to a tectonic plate. It is completely unusable.

So Cyborg has planetary level durability? Because he took the exact same hit as Clark and got up minutes later. And it didn't even really make a crater or anything

It was a collection of newspaper clippings of factual events of all the deeds he had done since man of steel. Some of those deeds received visuals, like him pulling the ship out of ice.

Yeah, the newspaper clipping was clearly put there as bait and meant to be fake. HERP DERP. You know how stupid that sounds?

All the other ones were real, but the one specifically of him stopping an earthquake through tectonics plates somehow isn't. Lol.

You deniers of this always sound like absolute retards.

Cyborg was made from motherbox energy, likely had some immunity to it.

Supes resisting terraforming level energy is consistent with MOS.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Hyperbole, if it was the full force or energy of the star it would no longer be there. 🙂

The best you can say is that it was the luminosity of the star directed through that point on and past Thor.

Our sun produces the energy of 1 trillion 1 megaton nuclear bombs every second and will have done so for 10 billion years. Thor endures that total energy output for however many seconds is shown. That doesn't even come close to depleting the the hydrogen fusion that will generate said energy for billions of years.

The world engines go THROUGH the Earth.

They're practically mini Death Star beams.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
What trash. A statement is hyperbole but a newspaper clippings is somehow usable. Superman has zero onscreen feats of doing anything to a tectonic plate. It is completely unusable.

So Cyborg has planetary level durability? Because he took the exact same hit as Clark and got up minutes later. And it didn't even really make a crater or anything

You don’t make the rules here, I do, so I say it’s useable, buckaroo.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
What trash. A statement is hyperbole but a newspaper clippings is somehow usable. Superman has zero onscreen feats of doing anything to a tectonic plate. It is completely unusable.

So Cyborg has planetary level durability? Because he took the exact same hit as Clark and got up minutes later. And it didn't even really make a crater or anything

The only trash here is your posts, but really, what else is new? You are after all the same guy who unironically believed a normal grizzly bear is stronger than MCU Captain America.

The statement is hyperbole because it couldn't possibly be true, not in the way people have used it. That retard Hulkster is now trying to pretend that Thor endured the total energy per second generated by the star when the star would have to be exactly Thor's size and right on top of him for that to be anywhere close to true.

As for Cyborg, yes. 👆 🙂

And Superman was inside the Motherboxes enduring the energy and forcing them apart when they were generating their terraforming energy. And it's not even the first terraforming feat Clark had, weird right? And if you want to go by statements, Batman seemed to believe Clark was "stronger than a planet" and this was what would let him be revived by the Mother Box. 🙂

^correct, he said “what if someone where stronger than a planet.”

Originally posted by cdtm
Superman would destroy giant Surtur too.
both at the same time.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Our sun produces the energy of 1 trillion 1 megaton nuclear bombs every second and will have done so for 10 billion years. Thor endures that total energy output for however many seconds is shown. That doesn't even come close to depleting the the hydrogen fusion that will generate said energy for billions of years.
Specifically it generates 1×1027 J a second. But you have no way to prove that Thor endured that because there were no signs the star was outputting that much energy, it was just a focused beam of the stars energy. 👇

If it was the total energy generated then the star wouldn't have been able to function because, once again, Thor would have been taking all of its energy. 😂

Yet the star was still shining brightly despite Thor allegedly taking all its energy. Why is that?

Wrong forum.

Moving...

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Our sun produces the energy of 1 trillion 1 megaton nuclear bombs every second and will have done so for 10 billion years. Thor endures that total energy output for however many seconds is shown. That doesn't even come close to depleting the the hydrogen fusion that will generate said energy for billions of years.

😂

Originally posted by h1a8
It was heat from the star focused in a beam. Not the stars total energy (since the star still exists and didn't get exhausted and will continue to exist for eons more and was shining all other directions while the beam was emitted. ).

The movie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> h1's biased opinion

First off, I my stance was that 6 could best him, due to massive lacerations. Because he got bested by two outriders who a 1600lb bear would absolutely destroy.

And I 100% believe the newspaper clippings, they are obviously there for a reason. But that's it. We have no idea how he accomplished the act. No clue whatsoever=not usable as a feat.

Second off, that's not what happened in the actual movies.

Superman did not "perform" a terraforming feat. Wtf does that even mean? He bested a terraforming machine in the first one. A very impressive machine at that. All the two machines did was change gravity over a very prolonged amount of time. Neither one was close to "planetary" level of power. They took quite awhile and what we can assume was thousands of "hits" or reverberations of whatever kind of pulse they were sending. Thats what happened in the movie.

The Motherbox was never explored in depth and we have no idea what kind of force it took to open it, we just know what it is capable of when operating. But I'm gonna rewatch the scene with him pulling it apart and as usual I will admit it if I am wrong. Let's see what it says.

What device does when operating does not = amount of force needed to break the device.

So we are gonna go straight to getting big mad because Superman is involved. No reasons for to many insults. It's gonna be ok.

My actual main stance is her healing factor anyway and Supermans lack of fighting ability. He is going to hit her and thinking she is done for and that's gonna be a mistake, because then she will get her hands on him.

With prior knowledge and an ability to bypass her HF. He shit stomps.

I'm not the other Marvel fans, 90% of them have me arguing against them on Supermans behalf. I just don't like the character nor how his fanbase acts. In COMICS DC is generally a tier above, but this is cinema and right now, speed/flight is his only advantage, but that won't do anything but prolong the battle with her healing factor

Wow. Cyborg described big time blowback "but I think we can take it" sooooooo no durability feats for the motherbox, no idea on tectonic plates. Plenty for Mjolnir. So Hela wins the strength department.

Anyway, have a good day/night everybody. Wear your mask or whatever.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The Motherboxes pack enough energy to terraform planets, per the movie, which is more energy than Thor has ever endured (yes, even when he survived a star's energy). 🙂

He's also shifted tectonic plates and overpowered a beam that displaced millions of tons of water that was terraforming the Earth while weakened. Superman is at least strong enough to hurt Hela, and is so much faster that she will never be able to hit anything resembling a lethal blow if Superman doesn't want her to. 👆

The only problem is Hela's immortality, so stalemate maybe, at best, after Hela gets tired of getting pinballed across the planet and Superman gets tired of beating the shit out of a woman. 👆

Where talking about Hela durability, not Thors. I'm sure the blast would've done anything to slow her down.

Superman is the poster boy for strength, but he's not even close to strongest characters out there. Hela not known for her physical strength, but clearly outclass Thor by a land slide, she's also not known for her speed, but still posses god like speed. Besides tagging Superman shouldn't be that hard, his speed did nothing for him to save his life fighting Doomsday, and before you jump on Doomsday being as fast as Superman train. Doomsday shown very little speed feats in the third movie. To think Superman would fight her, and she wouldn't be able to hit him, with all the fighting experiene she has, powers she possess, durabilty, and immortality, is just down right ludacris.