Psylocke vs Starfire

Started by StiltmanFTW6 pages
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Most Tamaraneans are skilled warriors. Kori is a skilled fighter in her own right.

Kori still wins. With or without her amp. 😛

starfire combat speed is faster than donna
http://i.imgur.com/dcKyKW1.jpg
same donna that can catch jesse quick
http://i.imgur.com/iGXbVyJ.jpg

Donna has fought herald level characters all her life
donna has beaten up etrigan, mammoth, Jade
blitzed john stewart, match
Donna is far cry from nobody, She's a notch below wonder woman.

Starfire kept up with Jesse quick
http://i.imgur.com/khLjE5V.jpg
and react to her blitze during fight
http://i.imgur.com/QM7Im0P.jpg

You're outgolgo'ing golgo here.

😂

The stats between the two are much different.

Originally posted by MrMind
http://i.imgur.com/Sy85VlG.jpg

I mean which do you think is faster? psylocke running or starfire's energy projection

if someone runs towards me for a single leg takedown, but I have a gun on my hand, all I have to do is pull the trigger

Sure, pull the trigger. Psylocke moves fast enough to deflect the bullet. https://imgur.com/a/OFnZpho

These are comics and she has top tier skill and TK. Claiming that Starfire blitzes requires some actual combat speed feats for Starfire.

A blitz showing might look like this: https://imgur.com/a/SynxS4y

Originally posted by Smurph
Sure, pull the trigger. Psylocke moves fast enough to deflect the bullet. https://imgur.com/a/OFnZpho

These are comics and she has top tier skill and TK. Claiming that Starfire blitzes requires some actual combat speed feats for Starfire.

A blitz showing might look like this: https://imgur.com/a/SynxS4y

Originally posted by MrMind
starfire combat speed is faster than donna
http://i.imgur.com/dcKyKW1.jpg
same donna that can catch jesse quick
http://i.imgur.com/iGXbVyJ.jpg

Donna has fought herald level characters all her life
donna has beaten up etrigan, mammoth, Jade
blitzed john stewart, match
Donna is far cry from nobody, She's a notch below wonder woman.

Starfire kept up with Jesse quick
http://i.imgur.com/khLjE5V.jpg
and react to her blitze during fight
http://i.imgur.com/QM7Im0P.jpg

She reacted to Jessie Quick speedblitze in combat....Jessie is a lightspeeder...

I mean...you guys do realize she fly ftl in space right?

or have nova blast to one shot a brainiac ship...

Lol those don’t show that Starfire can blitz anybody much less Psylocke.

Originally posted by Smurph
Lol those don’t show that Starfire can blitz anybody much less Psylocke.

lol at you lol

if someone can fly near lightspeed, and punch at super strength, shoots energy projection, while 50 fts away. you are suggesting she's just autistically gonna stand there and wait for psylocke to do something...well I don't know what to say....derp

speedblitze is just one option, she can nova blast right off the bat, her energy projection travels real fast, especially when it's 50 fts

Originally posted by Smurph
Sure, pull the trigger. Psylocke moves fast enough to deflect the bullet. https://imgur.com/a/OFnZpho

These are comics and she has top tier skill and TK. Claiming that Starfire blitzes requires some actual combat speed feats for Starfire.

A blitz showing might look like this: https://imgur.com/a/SynxS4y

I mean I'm not sure....you get my analogy?

this is not regular gun dude vs psylocke...

psylocke fighting starfire is like a martial artist versus someone with heavy guns. completely different tier when it comes to offensive weaponary. her only trump card is her tp, which she's not fast enough to use in a 1 on 1 battle

and those blitzing feats are so meh, I can find low meta replicating it, if psylocke decide to go close combat, it would be rude awakening for her...

Combat speed isn’t travel speed, no matter how much you want it to be.

Originally posted by MrMind
speedblitze is just one option
No, it’s not an option at all, unless you can produce an actual combat speed feat.

Nova blast is irrelevant to the speedblitz issue. Both characters have long distance attacks so we can argue about whether Starfire would nova before Psylocke would mindblast, but none of that makes Starfire capable of speedblitzing Psylocke

Originally posted by MrMind
I mean I'm not sure....you get my analogy?

this is not regular gun dude vs psylocke...

psylocke fighting starfire is like a martial artist versus someone with heavy guns. completely different tier when it comes to offensive weaponary. her only trump card is her tp, which she's not fast enough to use in a 1 on 1 battle

and those blitzing feats are so meh, I can find low meta replicating it, if psylocke decide to go close combat, it would be rude awakening for her...

I get your analogy. You’re just ignoring that this takes place in a comic book, where martial artists take down heavy guns every single day.

You say Psylocke isn’t fast enough to use TP in a battle based on... what? You say close combat would be a rude awakening based on... what?

I don’t disagree that Starfire could win. But claiming that Starfire would blitz Psylocke because of Kory’s travel speed is the same as claiming that Thor blitzes Wolverine.

Originally posted by Smurph
Combat speed isn’t travel speed, no matter how much you want it to be.
No, it’s not an option at all, unless you can produce an actual combat speed feat.

Nova blast is irrelevant to the speedblitz issue. Both characters have long distance attacks so we can argue about whether Starfire would nova before Psylocke would mindblast, but none of that makes Starfire capable of speedblitzing Psylocke

combat speed is just reaction speed, and it was shown...you guys just chose to ignore it
react to jesse quick blitze during fight
http://i.imgur.com/QM7Im0P.jpg

saving people from explosion
http://i.imgur.com/SNTirrf.jpg

or if you wanna see actual blitze, here's another one
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/13/130415/3089251-koricheshire.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/13/130415/3089252-koricheshire2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SNTirrf.jpg

Are travel speed feats equal to combat speed feats now? Because if so Thor and Norrin move up a notch.

Originally posted by MrMind
or if you wanna see actual blitze, here's another one
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/13/130415/3089251-koricheshire.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/13/130415/3089252-koricheshire2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SNTirrf.jpg
Much better. 👆

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Are travel speed feats equal to combat speed feats now?

says who?

I can't believe a blitz is being argued for Starfire. Even Golgo doesn't go that far lol. There's been too many posts to quote individually so I'll just respond to points I'm seeing.

Starfire is in the same speed bracket as Carol Danvers and Rogue, and they have more impressive feats in some regards.

Rogue has literally outran a laser while being no where close by when it was fired, as Wolverine's senses didn't pick her up. She can stand directly in front of two gatling guns, catch all the bullets and throw them back.Yet, she can't land a hit on Psylocke in close combat, or during bullrushes as was suggested for Starfire.

As for dodging starbolts, Rogue has dodged Dazzler's light beams just fine. Psylocke herself has deflected point blank lasers and dodged repulsor blasts. These don't make any of these characters lightspeed. Let's chill out with this.

Originally posted by MrMind

or if you wanna see actual blitze, here's another one
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/13/130415/3089251-koricheshire.jpg
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/13/130415/3089252-koricheshire2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SNTirrf.jpg

Those aren't blitzes man. Smurph was just being nice. Cheshire couldn't react because she was turned around, not because Lori was too fast. They certainly aren't as impressive as, say, Psylocke dismembering and decapitating a dude without visibly moving.

Either of these characters is blitzing the other is unlikely. Straight up, I think Psylocke would be fine speed-wise in close combat with Kori. Kori certainly isn't too fast for a ranged psi-bolt though.

High metas generally can't blitz each other. The speed differences aren't astronomical like they are at high herald or such.