Psylocke vs Starfire

Originally posted by MrMind
starfire combat speed is faster than donna
http://i.imgur.com/dcKyKW1.jpg
same donna that can catch jesse quick
http://i.imgur.com/iGXbVyJ.jpg

Starfire kept up with Jesse quick
http://i.imgur.com/khLjE5V.jpg
and react to her blitze during fight
http://i.imgur.com/QM7Im0P.jpg

Starfire isn't keeping up with Jesse. They are following Starfire. They thought she'd lost her mind and are trying to figure out what's wrong. They also went easy on her because of that.

She led them to wrap tin foil around their heads at a grocery store. No substantial speed feats here.

Good to have you back, Style.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Donna was later seen asking Jesse to slow down because Donna couldn't keep up.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Good to have you back, Style.

The Internet activity in general hasn't noticeably increased, imho.

So yeah, weird.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Those aren't blitzes man. Smurph was just being nice.

I genuinely don’t know Starfire very well and that scan at least shows me that she isn’t always slow in combat. But nothing that’s been posted comes close to speedblitzing Psylocke, who is an actual Jedi.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The Internet activity in general hasn't noticeably increased, imho.

So yeah, weird.

That's because the age group is older on KMC.

So a lot of people, whilst being stuck at home, also have other responsibilities.

It's the sites with all the kids that will prib see more activity.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's because the age group is older on KMC.

So a lot of people, whilst being stuck at home, also have other responsibilities.

It's the sites with all the kids that will prib see more activity.

Speak for yourself, old man

I'm 18 forever 💃

Even though I got rheumatoid arthritis 🙁

Originally posted by MrMind
Speak for yourself, old man

I'm 18 forever 💃

Even though I got rheumatoid arthritis 🙁

KMC sure helps us to feel young, I agree 👆

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
KMC sure helps us to feel young, I agree 👆

Originally posted by Charles ASX
This is the problem.

You need to relax a little and stop thinking of it as one.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You need to relax a little and stop thinking of it as one.

Originally posted by Charles ASX
How did this come out of a starfire vs psylocke thread for a psychiatric consultation? lol.

Stilt and I are thinking of 50 different ways to cockslap Starfire and Psylocke into concussions

it's great psychiatric consultation

Originally posted by Smurph
Yeah. The Cheshire scan was the only one of Starfire using speed to attack (the basic requirement for a blitz), and it was against a preoccupied target.

I genuinely don’t know Starfire very well and that scan at least shows me that she isn’t always slow in combat. But nothing that’s been posted comes close to speedblitzing Psylocke, who is an actual Jedi.

👆

I miss folks like Konton and Q99. They followed Kori and others from those quadrants of comics pretty closely. We lost a lot of representation for various characters over time, but I guess it's to be expected.

Typing on the phone at work right now so I'll make this quick

In a forum battle, characters who can fly ftl can usually speedblize someone who doesn't have high level superspeed based on power set. Where CIS and PIS aren't factors.

But you guys are doing the feats be all end all route and are asking for blitzing feats only. I'm sure she has some but I'm not gonna go find them in issues. Takes too much time. It's just ridiculous u guys habdwave away other speed feats to gauge her speed level in combat.

It's just one of way she can win btw. Energy projection or close combat shes more than capable. I have no clue of her tp resistance.
If she can't resist the tp then the arguments end there I guess.
So again a QuickDraw scenario.

Anyway I'm not as informed as you on these 2 so I'll take your word for it. I have no energy to flip through books and debate on this topic that doesn't particular interest me

I will get back to you on that warblade thread tomorrow since it's someone I'm familiar.

Originally posted by MrMind
In a forum battle, characters who can fly ftl can usually speedblize someone who doesn't have high level superspeed based on power set. Where CIS and PIS aren't factors.

So you have three options:

A) Starfire can and does use her ftl speed in combat in comics, in which case she could here, for a possible speed blitz

B) Starfire could use her ftl speed in combat but doesn’t, in which case she won’t here, because CIS still applies

C) Starfire can’t use her ftl speed in combat because her combat speed is slower than her travel speed

You need feats to show that A is more likely than B or C.

Originally posted by Smurph
But CIS is a factor in a forum battle.

So you have three options:

A) Starfire can and does use her ftl speed in combat in comics, in which case she could here, for a possible speed blitz

B) Starfire could use her ftl speed in combat but doesn’t, in which case she won’t here, because CIS still applies

C) Starfire can’t use her ftl speed in combat because her combat speed is slower than her travel speed

You need feats to show that A is more likely than B or C.

that's the thing I often forgot about kmc rules if stated otherwise cis is on

I've been to different battle forums and some has cis off for standard fight

it makes sense for cis to be off in a forum fight. for one cis is often related to pis, it's deciding factor in comic book fight because most comic fights have pre-determined circumstances, not 1v1 in a cage

taking characters personality into consideration in a forum fight is dumb.

full capacity rule by itself should include cis off, that's what full capacity means.

now I'm gonna go full h1 here

A. Do I think Starfire can fight at ftl speed? of course no, but travel speed is correlated to combat speed. someone who can run fast usually can fight fast, that's how it goes.
Starfire can travel ftl in space, let's half it since it's in a fight on earth, she would still be able to fly at half the lightspeed. now let's half it again, for good measure and say she can twist and turn at a quarter of lighspeed. let's half it again for good measure and say she fights at 1/8th of lightspeed.

that's over 80 millions miles per hour.

B. let's say she doesn't go all out, she really half ass it, she could still be blitzing at 10 millions miles per hour

C. her combat speed is slower than her travel speed, and she isn't going all out, she still is coming towards psylocke 10 millions miles per hour, 50 fts away from her, can psylocke either drops her with tp or dodges her in this scenerio. when starfire is coming at her with super speed, super strength, and energy projection shooting out of her hands. how does she survives the initial blitze.

I usually debate heralds and above fights, if raw stats like speed gap is huge enough fighting skill is close to irrelevant

so my perception might be altered, high metas fights do go different, same principle should still apply though

Originally posted by StyleTime
👆

I miss folks like Konton and Q99.

You and those two.

The only KMCers in the site's entire history that obsessed over female characters and, as dreadful as the mere thought is, probably respected women in real life.

I need a drink.

Originally posted by MrMind
I usually debate heralds and above fights, if raw stats like speed gap is huge enough fighting skill is close to irrelevant

so my perception might be altered, high metas fights do go different, same principle should still apply though

Heralds don't get to claim speedblitz based solely on travel speed.

Originally posted by Smurph
You still need feats for herald debates.

Heralds don't get to claim speedblitz based solely on travel speed.

I find it weird that you need to lecture MrMind on that, of all people.

He's been dissing Thor's and Surfer's speed (and righteously so) for over a decade.

But suddenly, when it's a DC character... who happens to be a borderline retarded fuckdoll... is in the thread, she can speedblitz a top tier MA with telepathy and telekinesis?

facepalm