Shade vs Starbrand

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not saying he does. Im asking what he mean by "only planetary".
The phrase gets thrown around lot regarding starbrand. Im trying to get a clearer picture of that position.

"fusiydoes"?

I've tried to edit all the insults out lol.

Originally posted by MrMind

Starbrand is PLANETARY in power, at his max he has the total power to destroy the EARTH. he's the protector of the earth. He is the definition of planetary level
https://imgur.com/a/xrFfJvm
https://imgur.com/a/ngBnOqh
https://imgur.com/dxwuiLf
https://imgur.com/sRKt35I
https://imgur.com/Y612JEi
https://imgur.com/U7BV84O

I guess because it's been bandied about a lot with Starbrand.

Originally posted by Stoic
In that case it becomes painfully clear that your opinion shouldn't ever be taken seriously. You are exactly like Quanchi, and yet for some reason you haven't been banned for commiting the same fouls that led to him being banned.

you are older dumber than carver, yet behave like IT and Quanchi's love child

😂 😂 Yo it feels SO GOOD that I don't have to see mrmind trolling me no more. I ACTUALLY thought he was serious saying those asinine stuff, now theres only abhi that LEGITIMATELY believes dc cosmology is superior. BUT thats cool since its only 1

You're very strange, Albert.

a full power starbrand with Jane Thor, Blue Marvel, Spectrum and Hyperion blasting their hardest, are level around hundreds of nukes
https://imgur.com/a/VlK4chq

it's a planetary defense system, yet people act like there's no limit fallacy.

Starbrand is way below Shade's level

Still waiting for Shades battle feats.

Starbrand is limited to the wielder's imagination. There are plenty of low showings for every character that was made. Should we dig up God of will Hal's low showings? This always seems to be the direction taken by stern DC supporters, but when the Marvel side does it it's trolling. And Alberto, I'm not the one. Trust me, you can resume the position.

I think the point is that several times within Kevin Starbrands short career, the point keeps hammering home that he's planetary.

If the Starbrand is limited by it's user's imagination, perhaps Kevin Starbrand has CIS/CIP. Which is still present in forum fights.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I've tried to edit all the insults out lol.
😆

I guess because it's been bandied about a lot with Starbrand.

Isn't that it's history though, that it's a planetary defense system? And that to be able to defend a planet, one needs to possess the power to destroy a planet? THAT'S it's history.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think the point is that several times within Kevin Starbrands short career, the point keeps hammering home that he's planetary.

If the Starbrand is limited by it's user's imagination, perhaps Kevin Starbrand has CIS/CIP. Which is still present in forum fights.

The Starbrand is actually a universal threat. The team that he effortlessly held off as I mentioned ealier are planetary level threats on their own. What is a sufficiently pissed off Hulk for example.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Isn't that it's history though, that it's a planetary defense system? And that to be able to defend a planet, one needs to possess the power to destroy a planet? THAT'S it's history.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Starbrand is actually a universal threat. The team that he effortlessly held off as I mentioned ealier are planetary level threats on their own. What is a sufficiently pissed off Hulk for example.

That's not quite how it works, though.

Hulk was effortlessly teleported away, for example. Any decent teleporter who isn't constrained by Hulk's mass could do so. I wouldn't class them as universal level in scope. Batman with a JLA teleporter could've done the same.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Its the notion of "earth" level planetary that seems faulty. When the word "planetary" is thrown around with him, that seems to be the level someone is placing the ceiling. Hence why i always ask, "what size planet?"

Ah. Then I guess we need to fall back on Kevin's words, which were that he would destroy the Earth. As Stoic points out, he's limited by his imagination.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ah. Then I guess we need to fall back on Kevin's words, which were that he would destroy the Earth. As Stoic points out, he's limited by his imagination.

Starbrand

Here I am dragging into a thread I’m not interested in…sigh

Fine Stoic, I’ll waste my time spoon feed you, how else are you gonna to learn

First of all Shade’s durability is insane
getting impaled by Cosmic Rod that’s drawing power from the stars, amped by Mikaal's inner star crystal was unable to harm him
https://imgur.com/a/HHuS1jM

Make a joke about Black lantern taking his heart, what does darkness embodiment needs organ for
https://imgur.com/a/gqCizvC

Banishes a freaking black lantern starman to the darklands/shadow void, if he can bfr black lantern, starbrand is small case for him.
https://imgur.com/a/zP8Ukni

he’s a serious threat for Dr Fate and Spectre, and those 2 have multiversal feats, scaling wise he is already insane.
https://i.imgur.com/B4zDmdE.jpg

his shadow wraith can easily withstand shockwaves equal to atom bomb
https://imgur.com/a/Htb24tM

he can trap starbrand in a inter-dimensional portal of darkness
https://imgur.com/a/AmhQVfV

or bfr him to the darkland like he did here
https://imgur.com/a/sUTEASX

when under eclipse control, his darkness construct was able to briefly restrain spectre
https://imgur.com/a/of6WqTY

devouring small planets with his darkness in the universe
https://imgur.com/a/wXwu1h6

the sphere of darkness he created, was too dense for atom and can resist the magic of doctor and zatanna
https://imgur.com/a/rudNywm

defeats someone with shadow manipulation powers
https://imgur.com/a/dYu65hv
Could’ve killed Johnny freaking Thunder, a 5th dimensional djinn, with his shadow wraith
https://imgur.com/a/YkzAPlp

temporal manipulation aka send people back in time
https://imgur.com/a/2b0gQSl

Shade can teleport Starbrand into a black hole, or bfr him into darkland, or straight up overpower him or overwhelm him with shadow wraiths, Shade is on a completely higher tier than him

Shade was also battling Egyptian Gods in his last maxi series.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's not quite how it works, though.

Hulk was effortlessly teleported away, for example. Any decent teleporter who isn't constrained by Hulk's mass could do so. I wouldn't class them as universal level in scope. Batman with a JLA teleporter could've done the same.

Do you have any scans of the fight in question? I am unable to post scans.

Originally posted by MrMind
Here I am dragging into a thread I’m not interested in…sigh

Fine Stoic, I’ll waste my time spoon feed you, how else are you gonna to learn

First of all Shade’s durability is insane
getting impaled by Cosmic Rod that’s drawing power from the stars, amped by Mikaal's inner star crystal was unable to harm him
https://imgur.com/a/HHuS1jM

Make a joke about Black lantern taking his heart, what does darkness embodiment needs organ for
https://imgur.com/a/gqCizvC

Banishes a freaking black lantern starman to the darklands/shadow void, if he can bfr black lantern, starbrand is small case for him.
https://imgur.com/a/zP8Ukni

he’s a serious threat for Dr Fate and Spectre, and those 2 have multiversal feats, scaling wise he is already insane.
https://i.imgur.com/B4zDmdE.jpg

his shadow wraith can easily withstand shockwaves equal to atom bomb
https://imgur.com/a/Htb24tM

he can trap starbrand in a inter-dimensional portal of darkness
https://imgur.com/a/AmhQVfV

or bfr him to the darkland like he did here
https://imgur.com/a/sUTEASX

when under eclipse control, his darkness construct was able to briefly restrain spectre
https://imgur.com/a/of6WqTY

devouring small planets with his darkness in the universe
https://imgur.com/a/wXwu1h6

the sphere of darkness he created, was too dense for atom and can resist the magic of doctor and zatanna
https://imgur.com/a/rudNywm

defeats someone with shadow manipulation powers
https://imgur.com/a/dYu65hv
Could’ve killed Johnny freaking Thunder, a 5th dimensional djinn, with his shadow wraith
https://imgur.com/a/YkzAPlp

temporal manipulation aka send people back in time
https://imgur.com/a/2b0gQSl

Shade can teleport Starbrand into a black hole, or bfr him into darkland, or straight up overpower him or overwhelm him with shadow wraiths, Shade is on a completely higher tier than him

None of that is beyond the Starbrand's capabilities. The Starbrand doesn't allow for it's host to die. It'll just reform the user until the user realizes that they are the Starbrand. The Starbrand cannot actually be destroyed. The only way that a user will eventually die is if they pass the Brand to a new user, or host. If DCU Kyle with his imagination had the Starbrand, he'd be ridiculously powerful. If you read Ken Connel's (may be misspelled?) time line, pay attention to what the first recorded user tells Ken. In that multiverse, there were actually more than one brand. They were the ultimate weapon to stop invasions.