Darth Maul vs Kylo Ren

Started by xPRIMEx6 pages

In their second duel, Rey may have fatigued quicker due to healing the monster on Pasaana. But even before it mentions that it states that Kylo was stronger, and that she couldn’t break through his defense despite going all out and trying to kill him.

In their first duel Rey was also going all out trying to kill him, but Kylo was just casually defending.

Along with the other things I mentioned in my previous post, it’s pretty clear that Kylo is her superior.

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
He still lost to her

This is just trolling.

He had her beat in Sabers and dominated her on 2 other occasions with the Force.

Hes not gonna underestimate Kylo Ren, so his losses to Padawan Kenobi, Ahsoka and Kanan are not relevant in the least here.

What level light saber is Kylo/Ben ranked canonically ? Ie 9 , 8 etc ?

Who knows. But I cant see him being above Maul/Dooku level.

The only noteworthy person hes beaten in Sabers was basically a Padawan. And Any real skill and power she had was from the Dyad with him. So he basically beat a less powerful and less skilled version of himself.

Until I see something more impressive from him, Maul wins a Saber fight. Heck not even sure if Kylo has better Force feats anymore.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Who knows. But I cant see him being above Maul/Dooku level.

The only noteworthy person hes beaten in Sabers was basically a Padawan. And Any real skill and power she had was from the Dyad with him. So he basically beat a less powerful and less skilled version of himself.

Until I see something more impressive from him, Maul wins a Saber fight. Heck not even sure if Kylo has better Force feats anymore.

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Does Kylo have any feats above Mauls hyperdrive feat from Clone Wars?

His collapsing of two massive statues is pretty close, and that’s before TFA

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/0/0b/Elphrona_outpost_destruction.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20200213072502

Not bad. That might be more impressive than Mauls.

It’s one of the best TK feats we’ve seen in canon, tbh

Looking closer I would put that above Mauls.

Cool im thinking the Hyperdrive that maul bought down did that have some sort of sort of energy or electro magnetic energy holding it in place etc? Because the HD maul bought down that was some sort of solid metal etc and will be stronger material wise than the statues kylo bought down etc?

https://youtu.be/FFkFwjvK3ms

actually doesnt Maul bring down 3 HD, or it was just a side effect from the 2 he had bought down initially ?

Pretty sure Maul destroys the structures they're attatched to and then makes them fall faster. They seem to be already falling before he sends them further down.

Originally posted by Scizard
Pretty sure Maul destroys the structures they're attatched to and then makes them fall faster. They seem to be already falling before he sends them further down.

Yep, ren's feat is miles more impressive and he's not at his peak.

Dammit you guys are right. It does seem that way.

https://youtu.be/DaOPMPzPsSU

Cool , (See above link ) ok see how he uses his force powers to bring HD down see how his arms / hands are sort of contracted/under tension Facing downwards like he’s flexing them them Downwards as the hyperdrives fall a fair distance downwards and free fall etc its like he moves his arms or hands back up normally like he’s not using his force powers Anymore etc : so Basically he was using his force powers to bring down the whole 3 HD using its whole weight with his force powers etc what you all reckon ?

^^ sorry just to add it’s like he uses his force powers not only to break the support structure holding the HD but the weight of the whole thing etc ..

Maul was pulling on the hyperdrives and the pipes got dislodged due to the movement. You can literally see the hyperdrives shaking. If Maul was just pulling the pipes there would be no reason for the Hyperdrives to shake like that before they fall. There are also mini explosions. No reason for those if Maul didn't affect the hyperdrive directly.
Also, the small pipes that popped out aren't what connects those things to the ship.In the video lnked by ozz81 you can clearly see the hypedrives are massive pillars that connect down, likely to the floor bellow, so Maul would have to destroy that portion of it for them to fall.The feat is very impressive.

Maul is significantly more skilled in the art of a duel, but Kylo is significantly stronger in the Force, from what I'm betting. This is ultimately a lightsaber skill vs Force strength contest, Maul probably takes it more times than not.