Perpetua vs The One Above All

who wins

current versions of both

Can Perpetua defeat the Presence? TOAA and the Presence are equals. The Marvel omniverse is as infinite as the DC omniverse. It isn't even arguable. TOAA is in every time line from beginning to end just like the Presence. All of those What if stories are divergent time lines, and the time lines are infinite.

If Perpetua pulled the same antics in Marvel, TOAA would become weakened/fallible as a result.

Perpetua.

Originally posted by Galan007
If Perpetua pulled the same antics in Marvel, TOAA would become weakened/fallible as a result.

Is that what happened to the Presence?

Originally posted by Stoic
Can Perpetua defeat the Presence? TOAA and the Presence are equals. The Marvel omniverse is as infinite as the DC omniverse. It isn't even arguable. TOAA is in every time line from beginning to end just like the Presence. All of those What if stories are divergent time lines, and the time lines are infinite.

What do you think of this view?

https://youtu.be/4JY0vugM2Kg

Perpetua

Originally posted by Stoic
Is that what happened to the Presence?

In short: TOAA is only omnipotent within a well-functioning system. Imbalances in the Marvel continuum weaken him.

Originally posted by Galan007
No, it's what happened to TOAA during Infinity Conflict/Infinity Ending:
https://i.imgur.com/aTIdd0G.jpg

In short: TOAA is only omnipotent within a well-functioning system. Imbalances in the Marvel continuum weaken him.

How do Perpetua's antics relate?

Because it's possible that the massive multiversal imbalance created by Perpetua could significantly weaken TOAA... Much like Thanos did after absorbing the power of one Regulator.

But again, that's only IF she pulled the same antics in Marvel.

Galan, you're making an assumption right now, Perpetua has never shown to do that on panel

TOAA Stomps

Obviously it's an assumption. We're talking about characters from two different companies.

I'm simply pointing out that TOAA is only omnipotent within a well-functioning system/multiverse(as he himself stated on panel.) When that system is disrupted, his supremacy dwindles and he becomes fallible.

Does that mean Perpetua can beat him? Maybe, maybe not. Just mentioning the possibilities, is all. 🙂

That's starlin views, one writer. the others ignore it. Starlin has a history of not believing omnipotent characters

Starlin's views are still 100% canon, and are also the most recent depiction of TOAA.

Recent events doesn’t debunk TOAA being omnipotent. If ANYTHING, there’s more evidence SHOWING presence isn’t omnipotent

Originally posted by Galan007
No, it's what happened to TOAA during Infinity Conflict/Infinity Ending:
https://i.imgur.com/aTIdd0G.jpg

In short: TOAA is only omnipotent within a well-functioning system. Imbalances in the Marvel continuum weaken him.

Which makes no sense. An Omnipotent being should be above such machinations.

BTW, I went to last year's LA con and actually met Starlin in person andasked if the Current infinity books were cannon an he confirmed it was simply a side project that marvel let him have
There definitely non cannon. At all. So it's invalid

there was a interview were he talks about infinity siblings
An they ask him about a new cycle of books he's writing
An stralin clearly differentiates each Thanos
The one marvel uses comic wise
The one he writes about which is a side project
And the movie Version:

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
BTW, I went to last year's LA con and actually met Starlin in person andasked if the Current infinity books were cannon an he confirmed it was simply a side project that marvel let him have
There definitely non cannon. At all. So it's invalid

I AM Starlin, and I can confirm they are canon 👆

Also, that I've never met you before.

Here's further confirmation @galan

Jim words: