It's funny that a "non-canon" story would directly reference canon 616 events...
Here Thanos recalls the past 616 Infinity Gauntlet crises involving himself, Warlock, Magus, and the Goddess, along with his 'death' during Annihilation:
https://i.imgur.com/PGkuapB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tXLNDYW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/obJWVSh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SlM68rv.jpg
Here Warlock's entire 616 history is recalled:
https://i.imgur.com/sScsxl6.jpg
Here Thanos mentions obtaining THOTI:
https://i.imgur.com/7FwKF5J.jpg
And the events of Hickman's Secret Wars was also referenced:
https://i.imgur.com/7394DIT.jpg
Sorry, Alberto, but your interview with Starlin doesn't retcon the facts he presented in the stories themselves.
Also, there's not more than one TOAA in Marvel. Therefore all of his showings would be canon for him regardless.
Originally posted by StoicIsn't the same true of all of DC's ELSEWORLD stories?
Can Perpetua defeat the Presence? TOAA and the Presence are equals. The Marvel omniverse is as infinite as the DC omniverse. It isn't even arguable. TOAA is in every time line from beginning to end just like the Presence. All of those What if stories are divergent time lines, and the time lines are infinite.
Originally posted by Galan007
It's funny that a "non-canon" story would directly reference canon 616 events...Here Thanos recalls the past 616 Infinity Gauntlet crises involving himself, Warlock, Magus, and the Goddess, along with his 'death' during Annihilation:
https://i.imgur.com/PGkuapB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tXLNDYW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/obJWVSh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SlM68rv.jpgHere Warlock's entire 616 history is recalled:
https://i.imgur.com/sScsxl6.jpgHere Thanos mentions obtaining THOTI:
https://i.imgur.com/7FwKF5J.jpgAnd the events of Hickman's Secret Wars was also referenced:
https://i.imgur.com/7394DIT.jpgSorry, Alberto, but your interview with Starlin doesn't retcon the facts he presented in the stories themselves.
Also, there's not more than one TOAA in Marvel. Therefore all of his showings would be canon for him regardless.
I see that as using the pre existing lore for his own project
Starlin from the end onward has been doing side projects for thanos
Hence why he differentiates between the Thanos he writes compared to what marvel writes
Etc
Basically Starlin using the foundation of the lore that exists an makes his own thing
But to each its own
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I see that as using the pre existing lore for his own project
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Starlin from the end onward has been doing side projects for thanos
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Hence why he differentiates between the Thanos he writes compared to what marvel writes
Originally posted by Galan007
It's funny that a "non-canon" story would directly reference canon 616 events...Here Thanos recalls the past 616 Infinity Gauntlet crises involving himself, Warlock, Magus, and the Goddess, along with his 'death' during Annihilation:
https://i.imgur.com/PGkuapB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tXLNDYW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/obJWVSh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SlM68rv.jpgHere Warlock's entire 616 history is recalled:
https://i.imgur.com/sScsxl6.jpgHere Thanos mentions obtaining THOTI:
https://i.imgur.com/7FwKF5J.jpgAnd the events of Hickman's Secret Wars was also referenced:
https://i.imgur.com/7394DIT.jpgSorry, Alberto, but your interview with Starlin doesn't retcon the facts he presented in the stories themselves.
Also, there's not more than one TOAA in Marvel. Therefore all of his showings would be canon for him regardless.
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Originally posted by Astner
Isn't that what canon in Marvel and DC is? Stories building on a pre-existing continuity?No, he worked for DC until just recently when he wrote the recent Thanos books.
All writers do. That's why you have the Hulk being reinvented for the fifth time and Ewing referring to it as his take on the character.
The end is what I meant isn't cannon an it's referenced in the infinity siblings saga
The end which. Is confirmed not cannon by the editor in Chief
Originally posted by Astner
Isn't that what canon in Marvel and DC is? Stories building on a pre-existing continuity?No, he worked for DC until just recently when he wrote the recent Thanos books.
All writers do. That's why you have the Hulk being reinvented for the fifth time and Ewing referring to it as his take on the character.
Pre existing continuity yes but Starlin makes his own side stories off that
That stray away from the main cannot universe
Starlin literally acknowledge that In the interview I posted
There's no reason to differentiate thanos in writing is they were the same
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I see that as using the pre existing lore for his own project
Starlin from the end onward has been doing side projects for thanos
Hence why he differentiates between the Thanos he writes compared to what marvel writes
Etc
Basically Starlin using the foundation of the lore that exists an makes his own thing
But to each its own
ALSO, Thanos in the new Starlin books is heavily characterized by the experiences of Marvel: The End, which is non-canon. This version of Thanos is a continuation of a non-canon storyline and is therefore also non-canon.
Likewise, the being that Thanos usurps at the end is referred to only as "Above All Others" in the storyline. This may mean it's referring to a different character.