Perpetua vs The One Above All

Originally posted by Insane Titan
plus in one session on forum springs or whatever it’s called he said the story was canon and non canon in the same interview lol.

Brevoort is an absolute dipshit.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
In that storyline that seems to be who TLT works for.

That is how LT has always been depicted. God=#1, LT=#2 in the cosmological hierarchy.

Originally posted by Galan007
If he wanted the stories to be non-canon, then he shouldn't have allowed multiple books to be published that solidify their canonicity within the company.

This, again, is why writer statements are not admissible and do not override on-panel fact/canon.

Which is why Jim Starlin saying it's canon is irrelevant. The editor HOWEVER is literally the person (or one of the people) who decides canonicity to Marvel Comics. THAT'S a fact

Originally posted by Galan007
If he wanted the stories to be non-canon, then he shouldn't have allowed multiple books to be published that solidify their canonicity within the company.

This, again, is why writer statements are not admissible and do not override on-panel fact/canon.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I thought writers statement didn't count on forums?

but i guess they only start "counting" when albert has nothing else to help his case. 😂

Brevoort isn't a writer, he's an Editor
THERE'S a difference 😂 😂

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
but i guess they only start "counting" when albert has nothing else to help his case. 😂

He's THE editor of all these series, but nah man what he says doesn't matter to dc fans

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Brevoort isn't a writer, he's an Editor
THERE'S a difference 😂 😂

Again: this is why interviews can not be used to 'retcon' established on-panel fact. This is not a debate, this is the rules.

Now, IF you can provide me with on-panel evidence which suggests that the aforementioned stories are non-canon, I'm open to continuing this discussion. But as it stands, you have absolutely nothing to support your "case" here. So just cut the trolling BS and move on...

It's not even a DC Fan thing. Assnerd doesn't even like comics.

Originally posted by Galan007
A terrible editor, given that he allowed multiple books to be published which confirm the canonicity of the stories in question.

Again: this is why interviews can not be used to 'retcon' established on-panel fact. This is not a debate, this is the rules.

Now, IF you can provide me with on-panel evidence which suggests that the aforementioned stories are non-canon, I'm open to continuing this discussion. But as it stands, you have absolutely nothing to support your "case" here. So just cut the trolling BS and move on...

lmao you can have it

IF its against the rules, than I guess

BUT The 2003 Thanos series references the End because it's also a Starlin book and he doesn't like that The End is non-canon. The other references are solely promotional fluff like guidebooks which were written before Brevoort clarified that it was a non-canon series.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
BUT The 2003 Thanos series references the End because it's also a Starlin book

Originally posted by Galan007
A terrible editor, given that he allowed multiple books to be published which confirm the canonicity of the stories in question.

Again: this is why interviews can not be used to 'retcon' established on-panel fact. This is not a debate, this is the rules.

Now, IF you can provide me with on-panel evidence which suggests that the aforementioned stories are non-canon, I'm open to continuing this discussion. But as it stands, you have absolutely nothing to support your "case" here. So just cut the trolling BS and move on...

What about the handbook entry designation of Earth 4321?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
What about the handbook entry designation of Earth 4321?

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
i already explained that to you, my dimwitted friend.

No, you reached deep into your stink hole to pull out sometime that made no sense.

they are the canon facts, so i suggest you take a nice long whiff of my stink hole.

thanos went back in time, diverged akhenaton's reality into 4321 by altering his destiny, then went back to the exact point he left in current 616.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
they are the canon facts, so i suggest you take a nice long whiff of my stink hole.

thanos went back in time, diverged akhenaton's reality into 4321 by altering his destiny, then went back to the exact point he left in current 616.

cry more👆

The page includes his 17 year reign as part of the Earth 4321 designation, which is before the time altering. The only source for 616 comes from you.

lmao so much derp.

akhenaton w. thotu originally appeared in 616. when thanos obtained thotu he went back in time to prevent akhenaton from obtaining thotu. this diverged akhenaton's past into reality 4321. thanos then went BACK to the point he left -current 616- and proceeded with his plans.

that is again why NONE of the other characters bios and sources mention reality 4321.

Originally posted by Galan007
Lol.

Brevoort is an absolute dipshit.

Yes, he works for Above All Others, who is "the supreme being and ruler of all realities." aka. TOAA / aka. God.

That is how LT has always been depicted. God=#1, LT=#2 in the cosmological hierarchy.

LT has also always been depicted as a single entity overseeing the multiverse and is depicted as such but Hickman. Yet Starlin has him a a single universe entity and the one from 616 being the only one killed by the Beyonders. IIRC, he portrays 616 as the only universe destroyed.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
LT has also always been depicted as a single entity overseeing the multiverse and is depicted as such but Hickman. Yet Starlin has him a a single universe entity and the one from 616 being the only one killed by the Beyonders. IIRC, he portrays 616 as the only universe destroyed.