Originally posted by Silent Master
No, it gives the sword the special attribute of being able to slice through a boulder.If you want to claim that SW's armor is >>>>> Vibranium, have fun proving it.
Slicing through the Boulder proves it can slice through conventional materials.
SW >>>Vibranium in cutting durability because of the WW slicing feats.
Vibranium does not get any special cut resistance over conventional metal without feats.
You know, there was a time when H1 actually made a half decent effort to make the defense of his arguments seem credible. They were no more correct, of course, but at least he put effort into trying to defend them.
Nowadays his defense basically boils down to "I can make stuff up and it's your job to prove I'm wrong. If you refuse to do so, you're a troll."
I mean, claiming a sword can cut through Vibranium because it was able to cut rock? Seriously?
Even I can cut chunks off a rock with a sturdy enough sword (even easier with an axe) but I'd leave no dent in a properly tempered steel shield, nevermind something supposedly as tough as vibranium.
Originally posted by FrothByte
You know, there was a time when H1 actually made a half decent effort to make the defense of his arguments seem credible. They were no more correct, of course, but at least he put effort into trying to defend them.Nowadays his defense basically boils down to "I can make stuff up and it's your job to prove I'm wrong. If you refuse to do so, you're a troll."
I mean, claiming a sword can cut through Vibranium because it was able to cut rock? Seriously?
Even I can cut chunks off a rock with a sturdy enough sword (even easier with an axe) but I'd leave no dent in a properly tempered steel shield, nevermind something supposedly as tough as vibranium.
I'm not claiming anything. Vibranium by default can't withstand bring cut by WW's sword without feats to assign it that special attribute.
The burden is on those assigning the special attribute.
The Boulder feat proves she can cut through any conventional metal the thickness of Ultron's skin.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, it proves the sword can cut through things with that level of durability.Prove it.
The Boulder has a level of durability >>>>>conventional metal of the thickness of Ultron's skin.
Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not claiming anything. Vibranium by default can't withstand bring cut by WW's sword without feats to assign it that special attribute.The burden is on those assigning the special attribute.
The Boulder feat proves she can cut through any conventional metal the thickness of Ultron's skin.
Lol. No dude, just no. Rock is not more durable than steel. We have an assortment of tools that can cut through rock, from pick axes to jackhammers, and none of them are strong enough to cut through any high carbon steel as thick as Ultron.
If you want to prove that Wonder Woman's sword can cut through Vibranium, at the very least you should prove that it can cut through regular steel first.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Vibranium isn't conventional.Now prove your claim.
So is DD.
You have to prove it is beyond conventional to cut.
Otherwise DD can be used as a cutting feat for WW.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Lol. No dude, just no. Rock is not more durable than steel. We have an assortment of tools that can cut through rock, from pick axes to jackhammers, and none of them are strong enough to cut through any high carbon steel as thick as Ultron.If you want to prove that Wonder Woman's sword can cut through Vibranium, at the very least you should prove that it can cut through regular steel first.
This is common sense.
Originally posted by h1a8
So is DD.
You have to prove it is beyond conventional to cut.Otherwise DD can be used as a cutting feat for WW.
Yes DD can be used as a feat for the sword, just like SW's armor can be used as a feat against the sword.
Now, prove her sword can cut Vibranium as so far all you've proven is that DD is far more vulnerable to being cut than armor and Ultron is basically walking armor.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes DD can be used as a feat for the sword, just like SW's armor can be used as a feat against the sword.Now, prove her sword can cut Vibranium as so far all you've proven is that DD is far more vulnerable to being cut than armor and Ultron is basically walking armor.
I don't have to prove that the sword can cut vibranium. It can by default. The onus is to prove the special attribute.
If a sword can cut through any convention material then it is a special attribute for vibranium to resist being cut by it.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Vibranium is not a conventional metal, therefore a sword cutting conventional materials is not proof it can cut vibranium. Especially since that same sword failed to cut through armor.
You have to prove that it's not conventional when it comes to withstanding cutting. Otherwise you are using a double standard by implying DD has no special resistance against being cut while he is super durable against characters like Superman and conventional weaponry.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Your claim, your burden.
It's the burden of the one giving special attributes to the character to prove such.
You have to prove that Vibranium is not conventional when it comes to withstanding being cut.
More specifically, you have to prove that it is harder to cut a relatively thin sheet of vibranium (Ultron's skin) than it is through several feet of a multiton Boulder.