MCU Ultron vs. Wonder Woman

Originally posted by Silent Master
Really? Because most people would think arguing that metal armor was especially vulnerable to cutting attacks was retarded. I mean it's not like metal armor was worn by Knights for the express purpose of defending them against swords.

Vibranium is resistant against conventional cutting attacks yes. A conventional sword can not slice through a multiple feet of Boulder with no resistance and have 0 damage.

Remember the argument that bulletproof vest stopping bullets but is able to be easily cut.

Let me ask you something. Can Wolverine slice through Ultron?
If so then why?

Originally posted by h1a8
Vibranium is resistant against conventional cutting attacks yes.

So your claim is that Vibranium is weak against WW's sword.

Have fun proving that.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
No. It was a "cocktail"

@Silent_Master feats such as...?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Nice. So it has to rely on it's own feats against cutting force.

@Silent_Master feats such as...?

Again, h1 made the claim. thus the burden is on him.

But I'm asking you out of curiosity. It doesn't have anything to do with h1.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Nice. So it has to rely on it's own feats against cutting force.

@Silent_Master feats such as...?

If we're going to be pedantic enough to want feats specifically of Vibranium Ultron withstanding cutting attacks (instead of accepting general durability feats of vibranium as a whole) then we should be just as pedantic with WW and ask for specific feats where she cut through decent metal armor (instead of accepting generic cutting feats).

Originally posted by FrothByte
If we're going to be pedantic enough to want feats specifically of Vibranium Ultron withstanding cutting attacks (instead of accepting general durability feats of vibranium as a whole) then we should be just as pedantic with WW and ask for specific feats where she cut through decent metal armor (instead of accepting generic cutting feats).

Silent was arguing that DD has no special resistance against being cut (i.e. DD can be cut with an ordinary man made sword). Therefore, the same measure was used for Vibranium.

Anyway, WW has a cutting feat (DD and the boulder). Both of those are beyond slicing conventional metal of Ultron's skin thickness.

P.S. It's funny how Thor and Asgardians were cut and stabbed yet Silent didn't argue against the weaponry being more tougher than ordinary swords and knives.

And add the fact that he believes Hela can cut Superman because her blades cut Asgardians.

Originally posted by h1a8
Silent was arguing that DD has no special resistance against being cut (i.e. DD can be cut with an ordinary man made sword). Therefore, the same measure was used for Vibranium.

Anyway, WW has a cutting feat (DD and the boulder). Both of those are beyond slicing conventional metal of Ultron's skin thickness.

Again, Vibranium isn't a conventional metal and WW's sword has also proven to be unable to cut through armor(SW).

I'd be more than happy to have a BZ where we compare the durability of Vibranium to SW's armor.

Originally posted by h1a8
Silent tricked you.
.

No he didn't.

Vibranium is susceptible to cut damage as seen by Thanos destroying Cap's shield with his double edged sword.

WW wins.

Prove WW almost featless sword is even remotely close to Thanos.

Doomsday was pierced by every single cutting and slashing attack made on him. Caps shield has way more durability feats than Doomsday.

And I think it's a stalemate or WW btw. All Ultron has was durability and he wasn't full vibranium.

But Thanos sword dominates WW's and it's not even up for debate honestly. Her sword is almost featless.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
No he didn't.

Vibranium is susceptible to cut damage as seen by Thanos destroying Cap's shield with his double edged sword.

WW wins.

I never said Vibranium was invulnerable to damage, just that it wasn't especially weak to cutting attacks. Thanos just happened to have the strength and a weapon durable enough to damage it.

h1 has yet to prove that WW can replicate Thanos' feat.

Originally posted by FrothByte
If we're going to be pedantic enough to want feats specifically of Vibranium Ultron withstanding cutting attacks (instead of accepting general durability feats of vibranium as a whole) then we should be just as pedantic with WW and ask for specific feats where she cut through decent metal armor (instead of accepting generic cutting feats).

Second, Ultron's vibranium wasn't really vibranium. So why would you expect me to go around sharing feats with Cap's shield and whatnot? Lol

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
For starters, slicing a giant boulder without the sword shattering is not a generic cutting feat.

Second, Ultron's vibranium wasn't really vibranium. So why would you expect me to go around sharing feats with Cap's shield and whatnot? Lol

I wasn't aware that there was something like fake vibranium in the MCU. Care to prove that Ultron's vibranium wasn't really vibranium?

As for the boulder cutting feat, yes it's pretty generic when talking about combatants who're strong enough to easily crush boulders with their bare fists.

Originally posted by FrothByte
I wasn't aware that there was something like fake vibranium in the MCU. Care to prove that Ultron's vibranium wasn't really vibranium?

As for the boulder cutting feat, yes it's pretty generic when talking about combatants who're strong enough to easily crush boulders with their bare fists.

Do I have to explain to you what a cocktail is as well, my friend?

Originally posted by FrothByte
I wasn't aware that there was something like fake vibranium in the MCU. Care to prove that Ultron's vibranium wasn't really vibranium?

As for the boulder cutting feat, yes it's pretty generic when talking about combatants who're strong enough to easily crush boulders with their bare fists.

And sure, it's 'generic' in that sense but it's still a phucking good feat. So, what is Ultron's alloy's phucking good feat against cutting force that I am not aware of, my friend?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
It's composition was different from vibranium since you know... It was mixed with other metals into a *cocktail*. In other words, it couldn't have been vibranium lol.

Do I have to explain to you what a cocktail is as well, my friend?

That's simply your interpretation. It can easily be interpreted as some parts of him being vibranium while others are not. And that's only IF we take Stark's smartass comments literally and assume that he knew exactly how Ultron remade himself (which he couldn't since he wasn't there).

In any case, this discussion is moot. OP specifically states this is Vibranium Ultron. If you want to assume this is fake-vibranium Ultron that's fine but it doesn't have any relevance to this thread.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I hadn't read the second part.

And sure, it's 'generic' in that sense but it's still a phucking good feat. So, what is Ultron's alloy's phucking good feat against cutting force that I am not aware of, my friend?

For beings as strong as WW or Ultron, cutting a boulder with a sword is about as impressive as chopping a zucchini with a plastic knife for us.

Final form Ultron was durable enough to withstand the combined blasts of Thor's lightning, IM's arc blast and Vision's mind stone blast for a few moments before succumbing to it. Sure he was a mess afterwards but it's still better than simply getting disintegrated.

And if you want a specific cut-resistant feat from Ultron, then I'll also ask a specific feat from WW where she cuts through steel armor.

Originally posted by FrothByte
That's simply your interpretation. It can easily be interpreted as some parts of him being vibranium while others are not. And that's only IF we take Stark's smartass comments literally and assume that he knew exactly how Ultron remade himself (which he couldn't since he wasn't there).

In any case, this discussion is moot. OP specifically states this is Vibranium Ultron. If you want to assume this is fake-vibranium Ultron that's fine but it doesn't have any relevance to this thread.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I think it's pretty obvious that Carthage's intent was to use 'Prime Ultron' and not some fanfic character like you are suggesting, my friend. Lol

It's not fanfic to use the character from the movies dude. You want to put your own interpretation on it, be honest enough to admit that it's only your opinion.

For what it's worth, I don't think Ultron was composed entirely of Vibranium. But I'm not going to make up some fanfic new alloy based on my interpretation of a side-remark from Stark.

Originally posted by FrothByte
For beings as strong as WW or Ultron, cutting a boulder with a sword is about as impressive as chopping a zucchini with a plastic knife for us.

Final form Ultron was durable enough to withstand the combined blasts of Thor's lightning, IM's arc blast and Vision's mind stone blast for a few moments before succumbing to it. Sure he was a mess afterwards but it's still better than simply getting disintegrated.

And if you want a specific cut-resistant feat from Ultron, then I'll also ask a specific feat from WW where she cuts through steel armor.

Durability against blasts, blunt trauma and cutting/piercing damage *is* a thing even in real life lol. What are you talking about, friend?

And even if it wasn't, WW mutilated someone who survived a point blank Nuke + re-entry from the atmosphere. So either way you lose 🙁.

And slicing a giant ass boulder is better than cutting up any shitty human steel armor, like seriously? 😂 What is the point in drawing that comparison since even rl steel armor has better feats in that regard than Ultron?