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So Sundred, was having fun with it, but it's one of those games that throws waves of enemies at you as you advance, and you're expected to level up to get past them. I mean, we're talking exponential numbers and quality of enemies.

I guess this is pretty standard fair in Metroidvanias though. Super Metoid was all about struggling until you got the freeze and wave beams..

Originally posted by Surtur
Beyond Good and Evil is a great game.

👆 Another one where we're still waiting on the sequel.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Fusion was good. Being weak and depowered added a layer of horror-vulnerability. The fact that SA-X was so strong that it could kill you easily (and it looked like Varia Suit Samus from Super Metroid) added another layer of fear. On top of that, the creepy clip-clopping SA-X does when "patrolling" the corridors on the station makes it seem creepy, as well.

Finally, the mind-f*ck when you realize there are multiple SA-X parasites walking around the station adds an extra creep factor.

However, I don't think I would have appreciated that game as much if I didn't play Super Metroid, first. The fact that I was "super strong" in Super Metroid and then I have to basically avoid "myself" from the last game made it more interesting. Like most players, I tried to fight the parasite at one point and got my ass handed to me. Stupid parasite using my suit tech!

And I enjoyed the Prime series. But the room puzzles were sometimes just too convoluted and frustrating to make the game enjoyable. I don't want to spend 2 hours figuring out a room. And it ruins the game to have to go online to and look up a solution, imo. So I either spend the 2 hours failing to figure out the puzzle or I look up the solution and spend 5 minutes.

That's also my problem with some of the Zelda series puzzles.


Yeah, and then they start actively tracking you. Creep shit. The fact that the Chozo created something as horrible as the metroids just to stop the X parasites is telling. SA-X brought a feeling of dread when it was nearby. You had to run and are constantly warned not to engage it. Dark Samus in Prime was neat, but never inspired the same fear.

Great point about it building off Super Metroid. This is making me want to replay it. Nightmare was great too.

Oh yeah, I agree on both counts about the puzzles. The Water Temple is meme status in gaming, for example.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I've only played the original Borderlands but it was pretty cool. I'd probay rank it a decent 7, maybe 7.5, on a 1-10 scale.

You will probably like 2 even more. It improved on basically everything. I haven't played 3 yet but seems like everyone is pleased with it.
Originally posted by cdtm
So Sundred, was having fun with it, but it's one of those games that throws waves of enemies at you as you advance, and you're expected to level up to get past them. I mean, we're talking exponential numbers and quality of enemies.

I guess this is pretty standard fair in Metroidvanias though. Super Metoid was all about struggling until you got the freeze and wave beams..


Sundered is on sale right now too.

Originally posted by StyleTime
👆 Another one where we're still waiting on the sequel.

Yeah, and then they start actively tracking you. Creep shit. The fact that the Chozo created something as horrible as the metroids just to stop the X parasites is telling. SA-X brought a feeling of dread when it was nearby. You had to run and are constantly warned not to engage it. Dark Samus in Prime was neat, but never inspired the same fear.

Great point about it building off Super Metroid. This is making me want to replay it. Nightmare was great too.

Oh yeah, I agree on both counts about the puzzles. The Water Temple is meme status in gaming, for example.

You will probably like 2 even more. It improved on basically everything. I haven't played 3 yet but seems like everyone is pleased with it.

Sundered is on sale right now too.

Biggest gripe with the game: Way too many dedicated buttons for functions.

I get them confused ALL THE TIME in combat. "Dodge roll dodge roll.. Dammit, that's jump."

In general I think a minimalist approach to gamepad controls is best, less things to remember on the fly. Even Cuphead had a button for dodging, one for locking gun position, one for super moves, one for switching weapons, one for jumping.. Compare to, say, Alien Soldier or Gunstar Heros, they manage to cram all the functions you need into three buttons. Really streamlines things, so you can get your muscle memory up to speed fast and concentrate on tactics.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Oh yeah, I agree on both counts about the puzzles. The Water Temple is meme status in gaming, for example.

I had the Prima Gold Strategy guide for that game. It was wrong. I had to figure out the water temple on my own as a kid.

THE NERVE!

But once I figured it out, it was very satisfying.

Originally posted by StyleTime
You will probably like 2 even more. It improved on basically everything. I haven't played 3 yet but seems like everyone is pleased with it.

Ditto. Recently played through all of 3 and leveled up to 57. Got the level 57 Krakatoa Sniper and that one triple-barrel sniper. Still have not "unlocked" mayham 2 because the main story just takes too damn long.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Sundered is on sale right now too.

I'll check it out.

Appreciate you and cdtm mentioning it.

Best played with a gamepad. I'm using a Dual Shock 2 for just about any platforming games that support it.

Originally posted by cdtm
Best played with a gamepad. I'm using a Dual Shock 2 for just about any platforming games that support it.

YouTube video

This guy gives game reviews that I agree with about 80%-90% of the time.

I think Sundered is a wonderful idea but just not executed that well. It looks like this game is almost to the point of extremely amazing but just has so many shitty elements to just not be worth my time.

FFS...it looks like everything I'd want. But under the hood, the repetition and unsatisfying grinding would kill me. I am okay to grind if grinding results in you becoming tangibly and significantly stronger.

I want to play Outerworlds so much but I refuse to until it comes out on Steam.

Wait, Outerworlds is also available in the Microsoft Store.

Maybe I'll get it now.

Outer Worlds is okay but doesn't deserve the over-hyped reviews it got. People were raving about it after playing it for like a day and a half, then they spotted the flaws. It is enjoyable and if you can get it on Steam for cheap you'll enjoy it too. I played it for free on my X-box game pass so I had a good time playing it, think I'd have been pissed off if I paid any more than about £15 for it though.

Originally posted by samhain
Outer Worlds is okay but doesn't deserve the over-hyped reviews it got. People were raving about it after playing it for like a day and a half, then they spotted the flaws. It is enjoyable and if you can get it on Steam for cheap you'll enjoy it too. I played it for free on my X-box game pass so I had a good time playing it, think I'd have been pissed off if I paid any more than about £15 for it though.

Thankfully, I never saw the raving praise. It was always the kind of stuff you mention: good but flawed.

I am DEFINITELY going to pay the full $60. I do not waste my money on anything extra. Nothing.

Except games. And at that, I usually only buy 1 game every 6 months these days. But lockdown has given me more time.

Originally posted by dadudemon
YouTube video

This guy gives game reviews that I agree with about 80%-90% of the time.

I think Sundered is a wonderful idea but just not executed that well. It looks like this game is almost to the point of extremely amazing but just has so many shitty elements to just not be worth my time.

FFS...it looks like everything I'd want. But under the hood, the repetition and unsatisfying grinding would kill me. I am okay to grind if grinding results in you becoming tangibly and significantly stronger.

I want to play Outerworlds so much but I refuse to until it comes out on Steam.

I like ACG. Seems like a cool guy.

I’ve been playing Final Fantasy 14. The mmo. Any FF fans should give it a try. Particularly for the latest expansion Shadowbringers. It was the best FF story/experience in 20 years. I loved it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
YouTube video

This guy gives game reviews that I agree with about 80%-90% of the time.

I think Sundered is a wonderful idea but just not executed that well. It looks like this game is almost to the point of extremely amazing but just has so many shitty elements to just not be worth my time.

FFS...it looks like everything I'd want. But under the hood, the repetition and unsatisfying grinding would kill me. I am okay to grind if grinding results in you becoming tangibly and significantly stronger.

I want to play Outerworlds so much but I refuse to until it comes out on Steam.

You do get stronger. You also get gameplay changing weapons and items. And your stats are very customisable through a "perk" system, which are essentially swappable mods that, for example, switch your relatively tiny shield system with about 40% of your max health, at the expense of almost all your health bar. This can be combined with a mod that constantly regenerates shields, or another mod that grants 10% of your max shield a kill, and works nicely with "nuclear options" to toast hoards of enemies at once.

Otherwise I won't say his criticisms are wrong about repetitive gameplay, but that's sort of the nature of Metroidvania's. 90% of Super Metroid, Metroid Prime, Symphony of the Night or whatever is a lot of back tracking, and a lot of combat against enemies designed to slow your progress. The fun comes from methodical exploration at your own pace, and figuring out how to overcome obstacles that used to hinder you.

Not a genre for the impatient, better off with any other number of games like Shovel Knight.

I will say the grinding isn't nearly as satisfying as it was in Crackdown.

But the entire point of that game was to go from average protagonist to Mini Hulk. Nothing so satisfying as breezing past hoards of enemies that used to be a real threat, or tossing a car at them from a block away.

Originally posted by dadudemon
YouTube video

This guy gives game reviews that I agree with about 80%-90% of the time.

I think Sundered is a wonderful idea but just not executed that well. It looks like this game is almost to the point of extremely amazing but just has so many shitty elements to just not be worth my time.

FFS...it looks like everything I'd want. But under the hood, the repetition and unsatisfying grinding would kill me. I am okay to grind if grinding results in you becoming tangibly and significantly stronger.


If his tastes line up with yours, I totally understand. I did check the video out, and he says it's worth if you get a deep, deep discount though. The current sale is 80% off at $3.99.

That's not me trying to talk anyone into it btw. I haven't even played it yet myself yet. Just letting folks know the price point.

Originally posted by cdtm
You do get stronger. You also get gameplay changing weapons and items. And your stats are very customisable through a "perk" system, which are essentially swappable mods that, for example, switch your relatively tiny shield system with about 40% of your max health, at the expense of almost all your health bar. This can be combined with a mod that constantly regenerates shields, or another mod that grants 10% of your max shield a kill, and works nicely with "nuclear options" to toast hoards of enemies at once.

Otherwise I won't say his criticisms are wrong about repetitive gameplay, but that's sort of the nature of Metroidvania's. 90% of Super Metroid, Metroid Prime, Symphony of the Night or whatever is a lot of back tracking, and a lot of combat against enemies designed to slow your progress. The fun comes from methodical exploration at your own pace, and figuring out how to overcome obstacles that used to hinder you.

Not a genre for the impatient, better off with any other number of games like Shovel Knight.


He does say he expects some folks to absolutely adore it, but it wasn't for him. That seems fair enough. That is the nature of a "niche of a niche of a niche that adds a niche" type game, as he puts it.

I don't know what his history is with the genre, and I'm too lazy to scroll through his library. He did give Ori and The Blind Forest a "Buy" rating though. 👆 Kinda supports my idea that this genre has something for everyone.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You captured some of the essence of why Fallout: New Vegas is the best entry into the series. It's just one of the reasons among many. NV is in my top 3 favorite games of all time. A noticed a lot of older gamers (millennials like you and I) like a lot of older games from their youth and that's simply nostalgia getting the better of them. It's part of why I think I loved Super Metroid so much: nostalgia. But it was just a damn good game the first play through. But NV? Despite the bugs, it was a masterpiece. A truly amazing game. Just a wonderful game. And I played it after I was an adult for many years. F4 was okay. It didn't quite scratch that NV itch I had for a new NV-like game. But it was decent enough. Then F76...just had to be a massive pile of shit. Made me so sad. 🙁 Legit sad. Between studying, work, and working out, I don't do much else. Gaming is a hobby I'd like to bring back. F76 was the chosen one. It was supposed to be the chosen one, at least.

Can we get some F5 love? And then KOTOR3? When I think of FPS RPGs, I immediately think of Fallout.

Sorry for a bit of a delayed response. Had a busy couple of days. And yeah, I could list a number of reasons why NV is great, but then we'd be here a while. And Fallout 76? The less said about that the better. Pretty much the only good part of it was the handful of new gear they introduced, like Ultracite Power Armor, of which I love the design. But someone made an FO4 Ultracite mod, so you can now have it without needing to play Fallout 76.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Didn't get into the mods. I should. I see a group making a NV game/expansion that looks amazing. Hoping they do well. Probably the biggest fan-made expansion is the Skyrim Enderal Forgotten Stories expansion. It's decent. In fact, it is almost good enough to be a legit game in the series but some of the voice acting is obviously super shitty and you can tell it is fanmade. But they revamped the alchemy system. It feels like you never have enough gold, however, as leveling up skills is purely based on purchasing books and reading them: HATED IT. So I did what any normal person would do and used console commands to give myself 10 million gold. Still wasn't f*cking enough to buy the needed skill books!! FFS! haha They did not think that game mechanic through. It's fan made: balancing gets you what you can get.

My steam name is dadudemon - add me if you use steam and we can co-op. That goes for anyone.

The mods I mentioned are kind of similar. Have some good ideas and such, but there are also things in them that make it clear, "Yeah, this is fan-made." Like a couple of silly, lore-breaking elements, such as the time-travel kill Hitler side mission in Outcasts and Remnants (a companion mod to Project Valkyrie), and some spotty voice-acting in a few instances. The voice acting for Valkyrie herself (which is a companion added by Project Valkyrie) is as good as anything in the official game and DLCs IMO.

And I still have a bunch of quest expansion mods I want to get to with Skyrim, such as Project AO, Carved Brink and such, but I need to get through all the extra Fallout 4 stuff first before getting into those, and I don't even have that much time for that already. I found a lot of the really old quest expansion mods like Falskaar are actually not great compared to some newer stuff and only really get hyped because they were among the first to be made, so people have that nostalgia going for it, somewhat similar to what you mentioned previously.

And I will see if I can find you on Steam some time. Though I don't think I have much in the way of co-op games installed at the moment. I uninstalled a lot of stuff a while back to free up space for other things. In fact, I think the only co-op game I have installed at the moment is Dawn of War 3, but it's not great. Admittedly, I haven't actually tried playing that with others. But if the multiplayer is anything like the campaign, it's probably boring. I did see that Destiny 2: New Light is actually free to play on Steam, so might download that some time to get a feel for it, as I am not really familiar with that franchise.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I haven't played any of those. But the "buddies" you describe reminds me of Borderlands 3 if you play as Fl4k: his pets routinely walk in the way when you are picking up items or looking at their states. It's annoying as hell. They need to make it to where the pets always stand behind you and out of your way instead of CONSTANTLY walking in front of you.

The buddies in Far Cry 2 were NPCs designed to come to your rescue if you get badly injured in a fire fight and can't get yourself out of it. But then they often add tedious requests to the missions you do. And unless you really suck at first person shooters, they aren't necessary to survive. So... I generally killed all of them myself, which the game at least lets you do. It gets marked as "Friendly fire" in your journal in the game, but there was nothing friendly about it. 😱

Even with the shitty fast-travel system, I'd recommend Dragon's Dogma to anyone who loves monster slaying games, as it's much better than most in that regard. You can actually do things like climb onto larger monsters to target specific weak spots and such. And it's got most of the other standard open-world RPG elements in it.

As to the whole VATS discussion earlier, I often tend to forget about it. I have nothing against it, but I never got into the habit of using it to begin with, so have to remind myself it's there sometimes. Though there are also FO4 mods to convert VATS into a more Max Payne-like bullet-time mode instead, but I've never tried them.

Got to be honest, all the praise being heaped on Hollow Knight in every single forum has me kind of suspicious,

I mean, if anyone even tries to criticize it, they get dog piled. I'm sure it has mostly legitimate fans, but I'm wondering if there's some sort of "social engineering" aspect to this. Heavy handed gurilla marketing, essentially.

Company's DO do this kind of thing. Anyone can hire them, and they go around just shooting down anyone who has a hint of criticism towards your product.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Sorry for a bit of a delayed response. Had a busy couple of days. And yeah, I could list a number of reasons why NV is great, but then we'd be here a while. And Fallout 76? The less said about that the better. Pretty much the only good part of it was the handful of new gear they introduced, like Ultracite Power Armor, of which I love the design. But someone made an FO4 Ultracite mod, so you can now have it without needing to play Fallout 76.

The mods I mentioned are kind of similar. Have some good ideas and such, but there are also things in them that make it clear, "Yeah, this is fan-made." Like a couple of silly, lore-breaking elements, such as the time-travel kill Hitler side mission in Outcasts and Remnants (a companion mod to Project Valkyrie), and some spotty voice-acting in a few instances. The voice acting for Valkyrie herself (which is a companion added by Project Valkyrie) is as good as anything in the official game and DLCs IMO.

And I still have a bunch of quest expansion mods I want to get to with Skyrim, such as Project AO, Carved Brink and such, but I need to get through all the extra Fallout 4 stuff first before getting into those, and I don't even have that much time for that already. I found a lot of the really old quest expansion mods like Falskaar are actually not great compared to some newer stuff and only really get hyped because they were among the first to be made, so people have that nostalgia going for it, somewhat similar to what you mentioned previously.

And I will see if I can find you on Steam some time. Though I don't think I have much in the way of co-op games installed at the moment. I uninstalled a lot of stuff a while back to free up space for other things. In fact, I think the only co-op game I have installed at the moment is Dawn of War 3, but it's not great. Admittedly, I haven't actually tried playing that with others. But if the multiplayer is anything like the campaign, it's probably boring. I did see that Destiny 2: New Light is actually free to play on Steam, so might download that some time to get a feel for it, as I am not really familiar with that franchise.

The buddies in Far Cry 2 were NPCs designed to come to your rescue if you get badly injured in a fire fight and can't get yourself out of it. But then they often add tedious requests to the missions you do. And unless you really suck at first person shooters, they aren't necessary to survive. So... I generally killed all of them myself, which the game at least lets you do. It gets marked as "Friendly fire" in your journal in the game, but there was nothing friendly about it. 😱

Even with the shitty fast-travel system, I'd recommend Dragon's Dogma to anyone who loves monster slaying games, as it's much better than most in that regard. You can actually do things like climb onto larger monsters to target specific weak spots and such. And it's got most of the other standard open-world RPG elements in it.

As to the whole VATS discussion earlier, I often tend to forget about it. I have nothing against it, but I never got into the habit of using it to begin with, so have to remind myself it's there sometimes. Though there are also FO4 mods to convert VATS into a more Max Payne-like bullet-time mode instead, but I've never tried them.

Sounds like you have too many add-ons to explore: such a terrible problem to have! 😄

I'll check out Project Valkyrie as it sounds good.

I love VATS, by the way. And I wish you could super upgrade your character to be a sniper VATS. They weakened VATS in NV too much, IMO.

We can do Co-Op when there are games that have it. I can't think of any at the moment except Fallout 4 with the mod.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I love VATS, by the way. And I wish you could super upgrade your character to be a sniper VATS. They weakened VATS in NV too much, IMO.

This is one of the reasons I hardly ever use VATS. I find that, for long-range shooting, it's more reliable to just aim yourself. In fact, to keep the nostalgia going, since I started playing F04 again one of my go-to armor mods is one based on the stealth suit from the Old World Blues add-on for New Vegas.

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/42822

That and a heavily modified FN FAL with a big-ass scope on it. 😄

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/40907

There is a chem (forget what it is called) in New Vegas that reduces the spread of your weapons thereby making them much more accurate both inside and outside of VATS (especially inside). Not that sniper weapons had much spread to begin with but it's a significant difference in percentages when you use that drug. There are also several VATS-related perks like 'Sniper' and 'Commando' that make sniping inside of VATS much better.

I actually feel like VATS in New Vegas was at an appropriate power level, unlike in F3. In F3 it was basically God mode especially when using a weapon like Lincoln's Repeater which had an extremely high crit multiplier. That, an extremely high Luck attribute coupled with the 'Better Criticals' perk, and the perk that allowed you to instantly regain all of your AP when getting kills inside VATS made your character almost unstoppable. It was almost impossible to die inside of VATS in F3. In NV, it is actually a real possibility. In fact, my characters I've played in it have died several times on the harder levels inside of VATS.

Still, I also prefer to manually aim when sniping from very long distances even when I have all of the VATS-related perks that help with getting better percentages.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
There is a chem (forget what it is called) in New Vegas that reduces the spread of your weapons thereby making them much more accurate both inside and outside of VATS (especially inside). Not that sniper weapons had much spread to begin with but it's a significant difference in percentages when you use that drug. There are also several VATS-related perks like 'Sniper' and 'Commando' that make sniping inside of VATS much better.

I actually feel like VATS in New Vegas was at an appropriate power level, unlike in F3. In F3 it was basically God mode especially when using a weapon like Lincoln's Repeater which had an extremely high crit multiplier. That, an extremely high Luck attribute coupled with the 'Better Criticals' perk, and the perk that allowed you to instantly regain all of your AP when getting kills inside VATS made your character almost unstoppable. It was almost impossible to die inside of VATS in F3. In NV, it is actually a real possibility. In fact, my characters I've played in it have died several times on the harder levels inside of VATS.

Still, I also prefer to manually aim when sniping from very long distances even when I have all of the VATS-related perks that help with getting better percentages.

How dare you contradict me.

I say to you, sir, good day! GOOD DAY!

Well, it's not like it's the first time I have lol.