Superman vs. Mangog

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil16 pages

Yeah, thats my mistake, they did stalemate

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah, thats my mistake, they did stalemate

Not the only mistake. In fact, everything you said in that post was wrong. (Now I feel like Luke Skywalker.)

Originally posted by Magnon
Nope, not the same Drax. Dumb Drax and classic Drax the Destroyer are different.

Again: No feat sharing.

Edit: BTW, Alberto said Drax lost to prof. Hulk. You said stalemate. So you agree with me that Alberto was lying?

They fought twice to my recollection. Is this the one that ripped the heart of a star?

https://m.imgur.com/a/4hv1XwW

Or is it this one (I know you see what I'm doing here)...

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
um it's simple. If you actually read comics, you have dozens or hundreds of instances from which to draw comparative context.
Other than feats, how do you determine who is a Herald level being, skyfather level, etc?

Originally posted by carver9
Why is Doomsday a trans tier character? Why is Thanos a trans tier character? What about Darkseid? Cheese fts isn't the end all be all of showings. If space cheese signify anything, Terrax would be much higher than he is now. Drax would be as well.

You didn't read what I posted. It's all about space cheese feats or people they beat who has the feats. In other words, the space cheese feats is always the first basis.

Originally posted by h1a8
You didn't read what I posted. It's all about space cheese feats or people they beat who has the feats. In other words, the space cheese feats is always the first basis.

Where did you get that space cheese is the first basis?

Originally posted by carver9
Where did you get that space cheese is the first basis?
When comparing characters from different companies.

Otherwise answer the question.
How do you determine skyfather, etc level?
Give me a detailed example.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Here ya go:

It's actually not similar at all in that there has never been anything established that Asgardians are any larger than Earthlings in the Asgardian realm, void, etc.

The void is the space between Earth and Asgard. How would he encoil Earth in the void if Earth is not in the void? Where is any notion of him not encoiling Earth in normal space expressed in the dialogue? And LOL at making hypocritical conclusions based on the dubious artistic scaling common to comics, especially comics from the 1970s.

First of all, it does NOT say that he is in his “ethereal form”. It describes his “ethereal coil”, thus not some form that he goes into and out of, but rather what he always is, an ethereal being. “Ethereal” is defined as: “of or relating to the regions beyond Earth” “celestial, Heavenly”, “unworldly, spiritual”. Jörmungandr is beyond Earth; an unworldly being.

Not sure of the point that’s trying to be made here. While Thor and Odin are fighting their enemies, the serpent is crushing Earth, thus Thor expresses the need to leave the battle and deal with him. He first must go back to Asgard and retrieve the items needed (boat, bull, etc.).

Again, where does this notion of the serpent being in the void while it is around Earth, which isn’t in the void? The second scan flat out says “thence into the yawning void twix Asgard and Midgard. “Twix” means “between”.

Again with the hypocritical conclusions based on dubious artistic scaling LOL!

Now even if we take these made up notions literally, does not Thor pull the serpent off of Earth, which is in the “normal space/time” (which contradicts the earlier statement that the serpent “didn’t encoil Earth in normal space”; smh at being all over the place)? So even if the unsubstantiated notion that the serpent shrinks in the void is true, that has nothing to do with the serpent’s size while wrapped around Earth and it is at this time that Thor pulls the serpent off of the planet.
Plus, space/time has absolutely nothing to do with the sizes of beings. The scan does not say “reality knows no natural bounds”. The dialogue specifically associates this with the length of the battle and nothing references any changes in size.

That definitely has not been proven here.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Casually debunked. Great job Hulkster

😂 There's a reason why Philo always avoids us.

If anybody disagrees with what Hulkster, BY ALL MEANS enlighten us so i can debunk it back 😈


😂

What a bunch of clowns. Midgard Serpent is outright stated to be invisible and intangible in that instance where Thor fished him out and he was doing the upheaval on Earth magically.


Now "ethereal" means "otherworldly".

😂

😂 abhi just daddydicked them 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

What a bunch of clowns. Midgard Serpent is outright stated to be invisible and intangible in that instance where Thor fished him out and he was doing the upheaval on Earth magically.


Now "ethereal" means "otherworldly".

😂

So handbooks now. Okay. Let's take a look at this part:

https://imgur.com/a/DGvh5vi

It says that the serpent is "invisible and intangible as far as HUMAN BEINGS are concerned." So how does this relate to the notion that Thor doesn't pull his full bulk against his grip on Earth and how does this relate to the notion that his size changes as he moves from here to there which is the main assertion being addressed?

😂 😂 hence why I didn't pay it no mind, it's ABHI.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Well, it wasn't Dumb Drax.

But I'm not sure what Smart Drax's power level was.

Aren't both superior to Kratos Drax?


Dumb Drax > Drax > Draxtos supposed to be strengthwise.. Narration and storywise too it was explicit, but comics r comics... And Classic Drax still has the best strength feat out of those three versions.
*shrug*

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

What a bunch of clowns. Midgard Serpent is outright stated to be invisible and intangible in that instance where Thor fished him out and he was doing the upheaval on Earth magically.

Now "ethereal" means "otherworldly".

😂


Ethereal actually also means heavenly or otherworldly...

Originally posted by TheHulkster
So handbooks now. Okay. Let's take a look at this part:

https://imgur.com/a/DGvh5vi

It says that the serpent is "invisible and intangible as far as HUMAN BEINGS are concerned." So how does this relate to the notion that Thor doesn't pull his full bulk against his grip on Earth and how does this relate to the notion that his size changes as he moves from here to there which is the main assertion being addressed?


Dude, iits full bulk is not Earth sized or caused upheavals because of it being so big, it caused upheaval magically. Any idea about its weight is automatically discounted.

If you have any idea about its weight, might be good to post it now.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Ethereal actually also means heavenly or otherworldly...

Not in this instance it doesn't.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Dude, iits full bulk is not Earth sized or caused upheavals because of it being so big, it caused upheaval magically. Any idea about its weight is automatically discounted.

If you have any idea about its weight, might be good to post it now.

Who is even discussing the upheavals? We can reasonably judge his weight.

Originally posted by carver9
They fought twice to my recollection. Is this the one that ripped the heart of a star?
(snip)

Irrelevant. I was commenting this post by Alberto:
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The same Drax that ripped a star with pure strength lost to Professor Hulk, let me know if that's the route we're going now so we can upgrade

Alberto's post was at least doubly wrong. First of all, it wasn't the same Drax -- Hulk fought dumb Drax. Secondly, Drax didn't lose to Hulk -- in fact, he defeated Hulk (since prof. Hulk yielded).

Professor Hulk yielded because they were causing too much collateral damage. He didn't yield because he felt defeated. Dumb Drax IS the strongest version.

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Read my comment again, slowly this time.

And it's hilarious that your comment ended up speaking *against* combat showings instead lol.

Hilarious it’s like he see’s what he wants to see and then argue against it.

Originally posted by MrMind
alberto is a master of self ownage 👆

I think that’s why they keep him around. 😂

Originally posted by carver9
Professor Hulk yielded because they were causing too much collateral damage. He didn't yield because he felt defeated. Dumb Drax IS the strongest version.

Perhaps, but if you yield you lose the fight. That's what yielding means.