The murder of Ahmaud Arbery/All three perpetrators found guilty

Originally posted by Robtard
Well then, let us see this other video which paints a clear picture. Why didn't the prosecutor drop the case if it's so definitive that the McMichaels are innocent.

I think he won't be dropping it due to public pressure.

They detained what they assumed was a thief, an unarmed thief no less and it resulted in death. Last I checked, we don't kill thieves or presumed thieves.

Nobody here is saying thieves deserve to be killed. What is being said is that the narrative surrounding this(innocent jogger gunned done by racist white men) is not accurate.

I'd also say this whole argument about "burden of proof" is a word game and it feels like a stupid argument to have. Who cares about the labels?

We all know how criminal jury trials work. We all know both sides must present arguments.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'd also say this whole argument about "burden of proof" is a word game and it feels like a stupid argument to have. Who cares about the labels?

We all know how criminal jury trials work. We all know both sides must present arguments.

Yep. Nobody said "the defense lawyers should sit and stare blankly the entire time."

Originally posted by dadudemon
Incredibly easy to answer:

Public outrage and public outcry. They need to make a show of a trial.

The level of public outcry didn't really happen until the recent video linked on this page was released. The shooting happened back in Feb.

When was this still unseen to the public video made known to the prosecutor?

Originally posted by Robtard
The level of public outcry didn't really happen until the recent video linked on this page was released. The shooting happened back in Feb.

When was this still unseen to the public video made known to the prosecutor?

I think you have it figured out. 👆

Originally posted by dadudemon
I think you have it figured out. 👆

Y-you didn't answer my question...

Originally posted by Robtard
The level of public outcry didn't really happen until the recent video linked on this page was released. The shooting happened back in Feb.

When was this still unseen to the public video made known to the prosecutor?

Well yes there was a public outcry after the video was released publicly which lead the prosecutor do what he did.

Originally posted by Surtur
So I take it there is not any precedence you can name. Gotcha. Moving on.

Props dude. U go all out for a friend. I hope silent appreciates u.

Originally posted by Robtard
Y-you didn't answer my question...

I don't need to. You already outlined why the situation is what it is. So what do we have to discuss?

Originally posted by Surtur
Well yes there was a public outcry after the video was released publicly which lead the prosecutor do what he did.

You also missed this: "When was this still unseen to the public video made known to the prosecutor?"

Originally posted by Raptor22
ill give u credit surt. Not only do u bend over and put ur head in the sand but u also do it while wearing that nice little cheerleader outfit for silent.

Props dude. U go all out for a friend. I hope silent appreciates u.

Genuinely wondering why you feel, if there is no precedent, why the law should start being applied this way now?

Originally posted by Robtard
You also missed this: "When was this still unseen to the public video made known to the prosecutor?"

Don't know exactly when, but it was prior to the public release.

Originally posted by Surtur
Don't know exactly when, but it was prior to the public release.

Instead of succumbing to "public pressure", why not release this secret video which reportedly clears the McMichaels of all wrong doing.

Originally posted by Robtard
Instead of succumbing to "public pressure", why not release this secret video which reportedly clears the McMichaels of all wrong doing.

Probably to avoid a shit storm like the one we are seeing? You know with people just making up narratives about this out of thin air in order to pursue agendas.

Originally posted by Surtur
Probably to avoid a shit storm like the one we are seeing? You know with people just making up narratives about this out of thin air in order to pursue agendas.

But the evidence in this unseen video is supposed to beyond clear that the McMichaels are innocent.

Originally posted by Robtard
Instead of succumbing to "public pressure", why not release this secret video which reportedly clears the McMichaels of all wrong doing.

I agree. 👆

What "3rd video" exists of the fight that made it so obvious to previous prosecutors on the case that they dismissed the case?

Arbery's parents' lawyer is the one that released the shaky-shitty video. On purpose. To cause a public outcrcy to force a Jury Trial. IMO, that's exactly what he should have done.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I agree. 👆

What "3rd video" exists of the fight that made it so obvious to previous prosecutors on the case that they dismissed the case?

Arbery's parents' lawyer is the one that released the shaky-shitty video. On purpose. To cause a public outcrcy to force a Jury Trial. IMO, that's exactly what he should have done.

You're playing more games, you're the one who said there's a 3rd video which reportedly clears the McMichaels, here is the post

Originally posted by dadudemon
There is a third, private, video which is not being released to the public that the courts and prosecutors have already seen - it captures in better detail what happened during the confrontation. It was so definitive in "what happened" that the first prosecutor wanted to drop the case.

Originally posted by Robtard
But the evidence in this unseen video is supposed to beyond clear that the McMichaels are innocent.

I thought you were asking why he didn't release the video he had previously seen.

Yes sure, if there is some unreleased video they should release it.

Originally posted by Robtard
You're playing more games, you're the one who said there's a 3rd video which reportedly clears the McMichaels, here is the post

What games?

Do you honestly think I have access to information and evidence that no one else does?

If you're actually interested in the facts of the case, please read this post from me (with all information cited) to understand the case, better, which also makes mention of this mysterious video (please visit the post as it has quote snippets that do not show up in me quoting my post):

Originally posted by dadudemon
You're fine: don't worry, I'm not going to jump all over you. I know how it gets in these threads but as long as people remain calm, avoid personal attacks, these discussions can last pages while maintaining respect.

👆

Here is that document I referenced. Note that it references the actual laws for all positions he takes:

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6916-george-barnhill-letter-to-glyn/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf

Here is the police/court report document which lists Larry English as a burglary and trespassing victim:

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/6915-arbery-shooting/b52fa09cdc974b970b79/optimized/full.pdf

Keep in mind, Larry was the one that rallied the McMichael's which is why the court doc says "first hand knowledge."

Also, it shows that McMichael saw Arbery "hauling ass" after breaking in and that Arbery matched the person on the video footage from the previous breakins (the break-ins that happened prior to that day which had everyone on high-alert).

Lastly, and this is what should have stopped this case from going anywhere, the original prosecutor mentions a 3rd video which has not been made public.

And love them or hate them, NYTimes is the source for this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/26/us/ahmed-arbery-shooting-georgia.html

Exactly. As soon as he touches or rummages through anything in that video, nothing can stop the burglary label as defined by Georgia law. It can no longer be "he just walked around, didn't do anything" and instead, "it's an obvious burglary casing and he had the intent to burglarize the place if he found anything" which then puts the McMichael's pursuit in the legal category instead of it being up for interpretation.

According to the original prosecutor who has another video that has not be released to the public, it's not the item being considered. What is being considered is if deadly force was legally justifiable in that scenario.

Also, here's the image of the supposed hammer that people keep talking about:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXg1SphX0AAy42w?format=jpg&name=900x900

I would love to see the evidence listing of all crime scene items. So this rumor can be put to bed.

Okay, play games.